This is Mike Israetel. Competitive bodybuilder, pro BJJ grappler,...

Mike is a bit of a “fitness optimist.”
He sees a near future where we can take meds that produce muscle.
Aka, you can take a pill to get ripped.
Like Ozempic, but for muscle gain.
I asked him about Ozempic side effects.
If we inhibit our reward sensors to say no food - could it mess with our reward sensors overall?
Mike is pro-Ozempic, but the way he explained side effects was fascinating:
It could some combination of no personal accountability, poisonous food, corporatization, the lizard people…
But Dr. Mike says the answer may be simpler than we think, and it’s hiding in plain sight:
The conspiracy is true, but it’s not as sexy as we think.
McDonald’s wants you to buy burgers.
But it’s not about the burgers... It’s about the buying.
It's not about making America fat, it's about giving Americans what will ROI.
“The good news is, for people who aren’t working out very seriously, just 2 or 3 sessions, 20-30 minutes at a time can get you unbelievable results.”
Here’s why:
Maybe you only need 2 sessions a week, but they have to be INTENSE.
How do you measure intensity?
- Try hard.
- Accept discomfort.
- Push yourself close to failure.
I was ready for Mike to tell me a glass of wine was gonna give me an early death.
But it turns out, in his view, the trade-off of moderate drinking is worth it:
The benefit of being in a relaxed state can outweigh the detriment of 1-2 drinks.
Fascinating conversation overall.
Listen to the whole thing here, on the podcast platform of your choice:
lnkfi.re/BigDeal
