🚨BREAKING DEBATE NEWS:🚨 MEET @Leafywashere00: HIGH ON HIMSELF, YET...
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Sep 27, 2026
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🚨BREAKING DEBATE NEWS:🚨
MEET @Leafywashere00: HIGH ON HIMSELF, YET A SLOW-TIER DAWAH- with an infamous reputation as a consummate liar. [SEE THE LAST CLIP: HE SAYS MUHAMMAD ABROGATED 6 AHRUF🤪]
During yesterday’s informal debate with LIFE from @GodLogic_GL on Quran preservation, he made a series of claims-and couldn’t help himself from lying repeatedly.
🔥Major lies
1. 👉CLAIM: Ibn Masud was part of Uthman’s committee and told him he still had his codex and was teaching from it.
❌ LIE: We have sources reporting that Uthman had Ibn Mas‘ud beaten. Ibn Masud also reportedly refused to let Uthman preside over his funeral. Scholars and hadith reports describe Ibn Masud as firmly opposed to Uthman’s codex.
In fact, the claim that Ibn Mas‘ud agreed with a codex comes from a chapter heading in Ibn Abi Dawud, which Ibn Kathir quotes, then questions as dubious:
وهذا الذي استدل به أبو بكر، رحمه الله، على رجوع ابن مسعود فيه نظر، من جهة أنه لا يظهر من هذا اللفظ رجوع عما كان يذهب إليه، والله أعلم
"What Abu Bakr, may Allah have mercy on him, used as evidence for Ibn Masud’s retraction is questionable, because this wording does not show that he abandoned the position he had held. And Allah knows best."
2. 👉CLAIM: Ibn Mas‘ud had his own personal Quran, complete with personal notes.
❌ LIE: Ibn Masud had his own codex, but he did not add personal notes to it. In fact, he warned people against adding notes to the Quran. Muslims make this accusation often, and Leafy repeats it multiple times during the debate.
3. 👉CLAIM: Ibn Masud’s codex contained material that had already been abrogated.
❌ LIE: Several sources say Ibn Masud’s codex was the most up-to-date!
4.👉 “Ibn Mas‘ud comes to Uthman and speaks to him personally.”
❌ LIE: He was forced to come to Medina.
@JaiNDoC_RL @chonkshonk1 @luisdizon @InspiringPhilos @Acts17David
MEET @Leafywashere00: HIGH ON HIMSELF, YET A SLOW-TIER DAWAH- with an infamous reputation as a consummate liar. [SEE THE LAST CLIP: HE SAYS MUHAMMAD ABROGATED 6 AHRUF🤪]
During yesterday’s informal debate with LIFE from @GodLogic_GL on Quran preservation, he made a series of claims-and couldn’t help himself from lying repeatedly.
🔥Major lies
1. 👉CLAIM: Ibn Masud was part of Uthman’s committee and told him he still had his codex and was teaching from it.
❌ LIE: We have sources reporting that Uthman had Ibn Mas‘ud beaten. Ibn Masud also reportedly refused to let Uthman preside over his funeral. Scholars and hadith reports describe Ibn Masud as firmly opposed to Uthman’s codex.
In fact, the claim that Ibn Mas‘ud agreed with a codex comes from a chapter heading in Ibn Abi Dawud, which Ibn Kathir quotes, then questions as dubious:
وهذا الذي استدل به أبو بكر، رحمه الله، على رجوع ابن مسعود فيه نظر، من جهة أنه لا يظهر من هذا اللفظ رجوع عما كان يذهب إليه، والله أعلم
"What Abu Bakr, may Allah have mercy on him, used as evidence for Ibn Masud’s retraction is questionable, because this wording does not show that he abandoned the position he had held. And Allah knows best."
2. 👉CLAIM: Ibn Mas‘ud had his own personal Quran, complete with personal notes.
❌ LIE: Ibn Masud had his own codex, but he did not add personal notes to it. In fact, he warned people against adding notes to the Quran. Muslims make this accusation often, and Leafy repeats it multiple times during the debate.
3. 👉CLAIM: Ibn Masud’s codex contained material that had already been abrogated.
❌ LIE: Several sources say Ibn Masud’s codex was the most up-to-date!
4.👉 “Ibn Mas‘ud comes to Uthman and speaks to him personally.”
❌ LIE: He was forced to come to Medina.
@JaiNDoC_RL @chonkshonk1 @luisdizon @InspiringPhilos @Acts17David
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🔥Here in Clip 1, we see another absolutely ignorant sidekick named @ramialkhaleel confusing ahruf and qiraats. He treats a disputed explanation as established fact. The hadith says seven aḥruf. It does not identify them as the seven later canonical qiraat. Your own scholars distinguish those categories.
🔥Clip 2: Both the sidekick and Leafy also claimed throughout the debate that the "perfect oral tradition" and the companions’ memories were myths.
Their explanation kept changing: the Companions either learned only one ḥarf, taught students only one, or taught all seven but their students remembered only one. They blamed this for the disputes.
Bukhari 4987 does not say that. It warns Muslims not to disagree about the Quran as Jews and Christians disagreed about their scriptures. Jews and Christians differed over the Talmud or Mishnah being added to the Bible, over Jesus being God and Messiah. i.e major theological differences. It never identifies dialects or vowelization as the cause.
So their explanation goes beyond what the hadith actually says. It's all busllshit frankly... made it up.
🔥Clip 2: Both the sidekick and Leafy also claimed throughout the debate that the "perfect oral tradition" and the companions’ memories were myths.
Their explanation kept changing: the Companions either learned only one ḥarf, taught students only one, or taught all seven but their students remembered only one. They blamed this for the disputes.
Bukhari 4987 does not say that. It warns Muslims not to disagree about the Quran as Jews and Christians disagreed about their scriptures. Jews and Christians differed over the Talmud or Mishnah being added to the Bible, over Jesus being God and Messiah. i.e major theological differences. It never identifies dialects or vowelization as the cause.
So their explanation goes beyond what the hadith actually says. It's all busllshit frankly... made it up.
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Leafy tries to sneak in Marjin Van Putten's commentary on post-Uthmanic manuscripts as if they were pre-Uthmanic, and even makes other assertions about pre-Uthmanic manuscripts, falsely attributing them to Van Putten.
Interestingly, Putten was asked about pre-Uthmanic manuscripts by @JaiNDoC_RL , and this is what he said (see image). Notably, he also agrees that nobody knows what the ahruf are, yet these Muhammadan clowns Lefay and Ramia, claim to know.
Interestingly, Putten was asked about pre-Uthmanic manuscripts by @JaiNDoC_RL , and this is what he said (see image). Notably, he also agrees that nobody knows what the ahruf are, yet these Muhammadan clowns Lefay and Ramia, claim to know.
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🚨FINALLY: OOOHH MAWWW GOD!🚨
🤮Leafy even throws Muhammad under the bus, lying about his prophet because he can't control that verbal diarrhea of lies he is so accustomed to.
👉HE CLAIMS MUHAMMAD ABROGATED 6 AHRUF! and puts this on Tabari.
❌ LIES: Tabari says no such thing; he simply states that Uthman disregarded 6 out of 7 ahruf
🤮Leafy even throws Muhammad under the bus, lying about his prophet because he can't control that verbal diarrhea of lies he is so accustomed to.
👉HE CLAIMS MUHAMMAD ABROGATED 6 AHRUF! and puts this on Tabari.
❌ LIES: Tabari says no such thing; he simply states that Uthman disregarded 6 out of 7 ahruf