๐˜ฟ๐™ž๐™™ ๐™–๐™ก-๐™‰๐™–๐™จ๐™–โ€™๐™ž (๐™™. 303 ๐˜ผ๐™ƒ) ๐™–๐™›๐™›๐™ž๐™ง๐™ข ๐™ž๐™จ๐™ฉ๐™ž๐™ฌ๐™– ๐™—๐™š๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™œ ๐™จ๐™ž๐™ข๐™ž๐™ก๐™–๐™ง ๐™ฉ๐™ค ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š...

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๐˜ฟ๐™ž๐™™ ๐™–๐™ก-๐™‰๐™–๐™จ๐™–โ€™๐™ž (๐™™. 303 ๐˜ผ๐™ƒ) ๐™–๐™›๐™›๐™ž๐™ง๐™ข ๐™ž๐™จ๐™ฉ๐™ž๐™ฌ๐™– ๐™—๐™š๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™œ ๐™จ๐™ž๐™ข๐™ž๐™ก๐™–๐™ง ๐™ฉ๐™ค ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š ๐™ข๐™ค๐™ช๐™ฃ๐™ฉ๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™œ ๐™ค๐™› ๐™– ๐™ง๐™ž๐™™๐™š๐™ง ๐™ค๐™ซ๐™š๐™ง ๐™๐™ž๐™จ ๐™˜๐™–๐™ข๐™š๐™ก?

Al-Nasaโ€™i in his โ€˜Sunanโ€™ narrates three hadiths in relation to Surah Fussilat.
[See 10/245 Al-Risalah Edition].

The first narration is of the slave girl and โ€œWhere is Allah?โ€ and ties to verse 11 of Surah Fussilat which mentions โ€œistawaโ€.

Now the second narration is the Prophetโ€™s mounting (istawa) his camel to set out on a journey and reciting:

โ€œGlory be to the One who subjected this to us, and we were not able to control it ourselves, and surely to our Lord we will return.โ€
[az Zukhruf: 13]

Some may think that al-Nasai mentioning this narration is to give an example of the usage of the word โ€œistawaโ€ in the language and how it was used for mounting a camel.
Note al-Nasai doesnโ€™t actually say this is the reason for mentioning the narration, rather it is what some may deduce from it.

However, recall that the first narration about the slave girl and โ€œwhere is Allahโ€™ was correlated to verse 11 of Surah Fussilat and its mention of โ€œIstawaโ€.

This second narration about istawa/mounting a camel for a journey quoted verse 13 from Surah az-Zukhruf, and verses 12โ€“18 of this surah closely parallel verses 12โ€“16 of Surah Fussilat.
Both assert Allahโ€™s absolute control over creation, subjugating the heavens in Fussilat and ships and animals in az-Zukhruf, and both contrast this power with human arrogance.
In Fussilat, Aad boast โ€œWho is stronger than us?โ€ and are destroyed, just as earlier nations in az-Zukhruf mocked their prophets and were destroyed. Each passage ends by stressing humanityโ€™s return to Allah and the futility of associating partners with Him.

So the mention in the narration of istawa/mounting the camel could be a mere coincidence and not necessarily the reason why al-Nasai mentioned the narration. As the rest of the narration ties in with the verses 12-16 of Surah Fussilat.

What solidifies this reasoning is that the third and final narration that al-Nasai brings has no relation to the word โ€œistawaโ€ whatsoever.

This narration is:

The Messenger of Allah ๏ทบ said:

โ€œI was helped by the east wind (al saba), and Aad were destroyed by the west wind (al dabur).โ€

This ties in with the full verse 16 of Surah Fussilat, which is:

โ€œSo We sent upon them a furious, violent wind during days of misfortune, in order that We make them taste a humiliating punishment in this worldly life. But far more humiliating will be the punishment of the Hereafter, and they will not be helped.โ€

This sequence gives a coherent and fluid connection of all three narrations being tied into order of the verses of Surah Fussilat with:

The first narration = verse 11

The second narration = verses 12-16

The third and final narration = verse 16.

The third narration has absolutely no linguistic connection to the word โ€œistawa,โ€ therefore the three narrations CANNOT be only about explaining the word โ€œistawa.โ€

This third narration fits perfectly with verse 16 of Surah Fussilat about Aadโ€™s punishment by a violent wind and does not relate directly at all to verse 11 about โ€œistawaโ€.

The heading is marking the section (Surah Fussilat 41:11 onward), rather than just restricting the narrations to the lexical and/or theological explanation of the word โ€œistawa.โ€

It could be said Al-Nasaโ€™i is gathering narrations that illustrate the themes of the whole passage, not just the meaning of the one word โ€œistawaโ€.

And Allah knows best.
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๐™„๐™—๐™ฃ ๐˜ฝ๐™–๐™ฏ ๐™–๐™ฃ๐™™ ๐™„๐™—๐™ฃ ๐™–๐™ก-๐™๐™ฉ๐™๐™–๐™ฎ๐™ข๐™š๐™š๐™ฃ ๐™ง๐™š๐™›๐™ช๐™ฉ๐™š ๐™ฉ๐™๐™ค๐™จ๐™š ๐™ฌ๐™๐™ค ๐™ก๐™ž๐™ ๐™š๐™ฃ ๐˜ผ๐™ก๐™ก๐™–๐™โ€™๐™จ ๐™„๐™จ๐™ฉ๐™ž๐™ฌ๐™– ๐™ฉ๐™ค ๐™ค๐™ฃ๐™šโ€™๐™จ ๐™„๐™จ๐™ฉ๐™ž๐™ฌ๐™– ๐™ช๐™ฅ๐™ค๐™ฃ ๐™–๐™ฃ๐™ž๐™ข๐™–๐™ก๐™จ:

Ibn Baz said:

โ€œHe is elevated above His Throne with an elevation that befits Him, Mighty and Majestic, not resembling the elevation of a human on a bed, nor his elevation on animals, nor his elevation on a ship โ€” the ship which Allah mentioned in His saying: โ€œAnd He made for you from ships and cattle what you ride, so that you may sit balanced on its back, then remember the blessing of your Lord when you are settled upon it, and say: Glory be to the One who subjected this to us, and we could not have done so on our own, and surely to our Lord we will return.โ€
So the istiwa of a created being upon something cannot resemble the istiwa of Allah over His Throne, because nothing is like Allah.โ€

[Ibn Baz โ€˜Fatawa muhimmah li-'umum al-ummahโ€™ p.14 Dar Al-Asimah - Riyadh]

Ibn al-Uthaymeen repeats exactly the same words in โ€˜Fiqh al Ibadatโ€™ [p.13 Al-Uthaymeen Charitable Foundation Edition and Madar al Watan Edition].

Those who misinterpret al-Nasaโ€™iโ€™s mentioning of the hadith of mounting (istawa) a camel, thinking that al-Nasaโ€™i mentioned in to prove istawa of Allah, are mistaken.

As explained already in my previous thread, al-Nasaโ€™iโ€™s mention of the hadith was the Quranic verse in it from Surah az Zukhruf and how the verses in that Surah link with verses in Surah Fussilat.
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