New right-wingers who try to sell me old ideas like they are new...
Dave Greene@GreeneMan6
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May 01, 2024
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New right-wingers who try to sell me old ideas like they are new have been getting on my nerves recently. I don't want to discourage positive thinking, but can we get some perspective? Most of these "new ideas" have been tried, and need massive effort or subtle solutions to work. Don't pitch them like no one has ever tried them before.
"Hey guys! this is the turning point!. Things have gotten bad enough and now Normies/boomers are waking up. Soon this revival of patriotism will restore the America that once was."
Yeah, no. Populism doesn't work. When it happens in an election cycle the phenomenon is a mile wide and an inch deep, evaporating when the vibes go away. As for things getting "bad enough" for people to wake up in a real way? That starts round about the time we reach the level where South Africa is now. We are going to be waiting for a while.
"We need to take back the institutions by working really really hard. Let's just pull up our bootstraps and get to work retaking the institutions that were taken from us! Starting by advancing professionally from the ground up"
Sure, and to an extent we are all doing this, working jobs, raising families. It doesn't take much to be more functional than leftists on average. But this isn't going to "take back" any institution. Leftist domination is built into the LAW at this stage. And, while being competent is good, if there is one thing the establishment has demonstrated, it's that it is very willing to sacrifice competency for ideological loyalty. Sure there is a "competence" crisis, but by controlling the education system and immigration, the mainstream is very far away from running out of minimally competent people. To be untouchable or wield leverage at an institutional level, you would have to be in the top 1% of achievement AND luck. Be aware of this limitation.
"There is a new generation of based young people growing on the internet. This is the first step for a burgeoning online movement. I know this because I have a thriving discord server which will certainly be the seedbed for a new IRL community, maybe even a new civilization!"
Again, I think we can use the internet for good or I wouldn't be here. However, let's review the challenges. You can't "WIN" the internet. The networks are owned by our enemies, and if they get scared (like they did in 2020) there is very little that you can do to save yourself from getting yeeted completely. Moreover, the "support" you build online is 99% ephemeral, bound to the app, and will disappear the second the "vibes" change. Certainly, you can build a community on Discord, but that doesn't translate to real life without A LOT of effort. Everything is easy as long as you're encouraging people to spend MORE time on the app, but getting people into the real world, where you form REAL loyalties is incredibly difficult. Again, we are working on this project, but it's not new and not easy.
I don't want to be discouraging. But let's talk over the problems as they exist, and without pretending like no one has ever tried them in a serious way.
"Hey guys! this is the turning point!. Things have gotten bad enough and now Normies/boomers are waking up. Soon this revival of patriotism will restore the America that once was."
Yeah, no. Populism doesn't work. When it happens in an election cycle the phenomenon is a mile wide and an inch deep, evaporating when the vibes go away. As for things getting "bad enough" for people to wake up in a real way? That starts round about the time we reach the level where South Africa is now. We are going to be waiting for a while.
"We need to take back the institutions by working really really hard. Let's just pull up our bootstraps and get to work retaking the institutions that were taken from us! Starting by advancing professionally from the ground up"
Sure, and to an extent we are all doing this, working jobs, raising families. It doesn't take much to be more functional than leftists on average. But this isn't going to "take back" any institution. Leftist domination is built into the LAW at this stage. And, while being competent is good, if there is one thing the establishment has demonstrated, it's that it is very willing to sacrifice competency for ideological loyalty. Sure there is a "competence" crisis, but by controlling the education system and immigration, the mainstream is very far away from running out of minimally competent people. To be untouchable or wield leverage at an institutional level, you would have to be in the top 1% of achievement AND luck. Be aware of this limitation.
"There is a new generation of based young people growing on the internet. This is the first step for a burgeoning online movement. I know this because I have a thriving discord server which will certainly be the seedbed for a new IRL community, maybe even a new civilization!"
Again, I think we can use the internet for good or I wouldn't be here. However, let's review the challenges. You can't "WIN" the internet. The networks are owned by our enemies, and if they get scared (like they did in 2020) there is very little that you can do to save yourself from getting yeeted completely. Moreover, the "support" you build online is 99% ephemeral, bound to the app, and will disappear the second the "vibes" change. Certainly, you can build a community on Discord, but that doesn't translate to real life without A LOT of effort. Everything is easy as long as you're encouraging people to spend MORE time on the app, but getting people into the real world, where you form REAL loyalties is incredibly difficult. Again, we are working on this project, but it's not new and not easy.
I don't want to be discouraging. But let's talk over the problems as they exist, and without pretending like no one has ever tried them in a serious way.
