On the one year anniversary of the murder of United Healthcare CEO...
Lorena O'Neil@lorenaoneil
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Dec 04, 2025
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On the one year anniversary of the murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, prime suspect Luigi Mangione will be back in Manhattan court for day three of his suppression hearing.
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There's a bigger police presence than normal outside of the NY State Supreme Court in Manhattan today
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Here's my recap of day one of the suppression hearings: rollingstone.com/culture/cultur…
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On day two we heard from one of the arresting officers who first responded to the McDonalds 911 call: rollingstone.com/culture/cultur…
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ICYMI I did a deep dive into Mangione's life and upbringing back in the spring, here's my story for @RollingStone: rollingstone.com/culture/cultur…
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@RollingStone And last week I published a look at Luigi Mangione's most fervent supporters: rollingstone.com/culture/cultur…
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@RollingStone Prosecution and defense have arrived
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@RollingStone Luigi Mangione has walked in, grey suit looks like white button down shirt
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@RollingStone Photographers let up to take pictures of him
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@RollingStone Come to order, Judge Carro arrived.
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@RollingStone Mangione looks back, smiles hello at Sofia Agnifilo
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@RollingStone Carro asks attorneys to approach the bench.
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@RollingStone LM watching the attorneys speaking to the judge, leans forward
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@RollingStone Al Baker called up to the front, I'm assuming this is about the sealing of evidence the press is contesting.
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@RollingStone I am not sure though, we are waiting to hear. On Tuesday a reporter was thrown out of court when she stood up to object to the sealing of evidence the defense argued would prejudice Mangione. Usually the press is allowed to be heard/object. Baker walks away from the front.
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@RollingStone DAs call up Officer Tyler Frye, the second police officer who initially responded to the McDonalds 911 call. He was with Detwiler who was training him on traffic law.
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@RollingStone LM watches as Frye is sworn in.
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@RollingStone Frye says he's a "little bit" nervous. He's 26-years-old and has been with Altoona two years, was a parole officer before then. (Jan 2 2024 is when he started at Altoona PD)
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@RollingStone The defense is seated differently than before. Usually it's been, from left to right, KFA, Marc, Mangione, J Kaplan. Today it's J. Kaplan, Marc, Mangione, KFA.
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@RollingStone LM takes his yellow note paper out of the envelope and is looking down and reading it, flipping through the pages
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@RollingStone LM jotting down notes, KFA looking over his shoulder as he writes.
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@RollingStone LM still head down, writing notes. Seidemann is questioning Frye and the bodycam footage from the cops arriving at the Altoona McDonald's on Dec. 9 is playing on the courtroom monitors
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@RollingStone "He's back here." we hear someone say as they walk in (in footage)
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@RollingStone About 21 members of the public here today. Someone asked me if there are empty rows in court and yes there are a few.
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@RollingStone We're watching Frye run the fake NJ Mark Rosario ID. LM still taking notes. Looks up at courtroom monitor briefly then starts writing again
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@RollingStone In the footage, LM asks the police officer "What's going on?" he explains they were called because he looked suspicious. "I mean I’m just trying to use the wifi.” -LM
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@RollingStone I can't remember if I mentioned this but when they approached LM he had a laptop in his lap
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@RollingStone 9:34:49, same song, LM munching on hashbrown holding it in his right hand. "What brought you to Altoona from Jersey? What's here?" "I havent been to Jersey for a little bit." Another hash brown bite.
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@RollingStone "He knows if you've been bad or good" lyrics play 9:36 LM keeps eating hashbrown. "My receipt from's 8:55. They should have just told me I would have gotten up and left"
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@RollingStone IRL LM is jotting down notes.
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@RollingStone We are now at the part where Detwiler tells LM the steak sandwich is his favorite and LM responds, "It's good."
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@RollingStone LM gives Detwiler a small smile after he asks him "What should I do next time?" (referring to why police got called). His beanie is still on, he's eating the sandwich now. 9:39 Jingle Bell Rock starts
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@RollingStone IRL LM watches the courtroom monitor as Detwiler whistles along to Jingle Bell Rock and video LM keeps eating his sandwich, yellow wrapper in his lap. He puts it up on the table as another officer arrives to take ID from Detwiler. 9:41:01
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@RollingStone "Did you ever tell him he was under arrest?" No. "Did you ever tell him he wasn't free to leave?" No.
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@RollingStone 9:41:13 We see Detwiler grab the black backpack from the ground and move it. IRL LM starts jotting down notes. He goes back and starts reading his notes, which are written in two columns it looks like.
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@RollingStone 9:42, LM is sitting with his arms crossed and no longer has the beanie on. Officer McCoy "Do you have any weapons on you? Is this your property here?" McCoy moves the backpack on to the other table. We see him pick up laptop and move to other table.
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@RollingStone 9:43 seconds, "Oh what fun it is to ride in a one horse open sleigh"
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@RollingStone "Do you know what all this nonsense is about?" - McCoy "We're going to find out I guess" -LM
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@RollingStone I can't really hear the mumbling on screen, LM smiles up at McCoy but keeps his arms crossed. McCoy moves the CVS bag to the other table
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@RollingStone More police officers are arriving at the scene 9:45. LM is calmly sitting with his arms crossed, back against the corner of the wall. Looking down. "Walking in a winter wonderland" playing but it's a different version than original.
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@RollingStone On screen LM shifts around in his seat, Detwiler walks up to him "You're under official police investigation right now." Tells him he shouldn't give another false name again, LM tells him his real name. M-A-N ... G-I ... O-N-E
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@RollingStone "I clearly shouldn't have." -LM when asked why he lied. Asked again "That was the ID I had in my wallet." You had a fake ID someone asks? He nods and says yes. Someone says mirandize him. Detwiler walks over and does that. LM keeps his arms crossed with back to wall
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@RollingStone Detwiler asks if he understands the Miranda warning "Yes, sir," LM says with a nod. He's very solemn. IRL Karen is whispering to Luigi as footage plays.
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@RollingStone It's hard to hear what LM is saying but he has his hands up against the wall to the left. He mentions he has a pocket knife on him.
"Can I take off my jacket sir?" (they don't let him, put his hands back and cuff him)
"Can I take off my jacket sir?" (they don't let him, put his hands back and cuff him)
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@RollingStone I'll be home for Christmas starts playing as they cuff him. IRL KFA and LM whispering to each other.
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@RollingStone We see a pocket knife folded up on the table 9:51:42
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@RollingStone "When Detwiler frisked the defendant did he recover anything?" "He did not." - Frye This is now 9:51:24 seconds (mistyped before)
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@RollingStone That was in reference to the first frisk. The knife was found on the second frisk. Frye picks up the knife and puts it with his other property. The DA employee comes up in a black hoodie and light baseball hat and takes a photo of LM with his phone
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@RollingStone "Ever been in trouble before?" - officer asks LM. He shakes his head no.
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@RollingStone They can't read the officer's handwriting and LM respells his last name, cop realize it had been wrong originally and corrects it to dispatch
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@RollingStone LM stands with his chin up, kind of swaying back and forth while cuffed. A lot of police are now at McDonald's.
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@RollingStone The only thing in front of LM on the table at McD is a blue medical mask, napkins, brown paper McD bag with receipt on front and the brown beanie. (That I can see... I never saw jar of peanut butter, must have missed it)
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@RollingStone 9:56:30 "Can I ask why there are so many cops here? - LM "We're just trying to figure it out." -McCoy
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@RollingStone Sleigh bells ring. Are you listening? (Now it's the regular walking in a winter wonderland playing.) LM stands, chin up with hands cuffed behind him.
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@RollingStone 9:58 “Anything in that bag I should know about?” - Fox. I don't see/hear a response from LM. Cops start going through LM's property, Fox and Wasser (sp). Frye reaches into LM's right pocket and pulls out black glove, jar of peanut butter
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@RollingStone The jar of peanut butter looks like it was maybe Skippy? teal blue? I don't know hard to tell. They pull a string out of another pocket. Holly Jolly Christmas playing as they peel back LM's jacket layers.
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@RollingStone We are watching I think Frye's bodycam footage as they search LM, we are not really seeing his property being searched it's off to the right of the camera angle.
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@RollingStone By golly, have a holly jolly Christmas this year playing as LM is led outside of the McDonald's 10:55am
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@RollingStone We are getting another bodycam view of the search pulled up. LM leans toward left and says something to Marc. Left hand, two fingers and thumb on chin. He whispers again to Marc who is responding.
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@RollingStone We are watching muted footage from Detwiler, audio starts at 9:58 back to Fox(?) asking LM anything in that bag I should know about. Lots of cops looking on. LM's blue and white Hawaiian floral print wallet taken out of left jacket. To his right on the table backpack searched
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@RollingStone I think McCoy is searching front of LM while Detwiler is to his left and Frye is to his right. Wasser(sp?) and Fox are searching his bag. McCoy finds a piece of paper folded up multiple times and places it on LM table near beanie
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@RollingStone LM faces forward, solemn and chin up, we can see his black scarf (thing that skiers use I cant remember the name around his neck) as he's searched. IRL LM sipping water
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@RollingStone New angle we haven't seen before. McCoy's camera as he is picking up McDonald's trash on table and starts putting it away. "We can take him in for custody" - McCoy says, citing PA law about forgery
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@RollingStone 9:59:05 McCoy called into dispatch and marked LM in custody. LM is about two feet away from backpack which is starting to be searched by Wasser. He glances over to his right while they unzip then faces forward again. IRL LM whispering to KFA
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@RollingStone Christy Waffer wearing blue gloves as she's searching. LM kind of looks over to the backpack search and then shakes his head a little and faces forward while the three cops search him.
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@RollingStone Sorry Christy Wasser wearing blue gloves as searching backpack with Fox.
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@RollingStone LM faces forward and then looks over briefly to right again as they search. IRL LM keeps talking to KFA.
"This is from a long time ago" I hear a cop say onscreen. Don't know about what.
"This is from a long time ago" I hear a cop say onscreen. Don't know about what.
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@RollingStone 10:53 McCoy has walked over to the backpack search. LM eyebrows furled looking over at Seidemann questioning Frye about whether or not there was conversation in the car while he drives LM over to station "Very little"
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@RollingStone Frye says LM asked for officers names in car. "I believe he apologized for the inconvenience caused at McDonald’s" Frye said he responded by telling LM the fake ID was "ridiculous" Five min recess, LM led out side door.
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@RollingStone Come to order. LM walks in cuffed. stretches his hands when cuffs are removed. Still sitting between the Agnifilos.
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@RollingStone Prior to the break the supporters had two rows on the right (behind defense) and one on left (behind prosecution). Now most of them on left, presumably to get better diagonal views of LM. There's about 21 today, many in green
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@RollingStone One supporter is wearing an "Italians do it better" shirt, another "People for Luigi Mangione". The police officers have some of the press move up a row so that there's an empty row between public and press on the left. (Already empty between those on the right)
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@RollingStone Now Frye is talking about jewelry not permitted for detainees, specifically asked about a necklace. Austin Homan bodycam footage starts on screen (he was the turnkey officer at Altoona)
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@RollingStone Ambulance on screen was there for "a homeless gentleman that was throwing a fit" according to Frye. This is the man we see later on being escorted out by paramedics as LM being searched again at the station.
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@RollingStone We see LM's shoes off and placed underneath the table at the intake area as an officer fills out a form. "We were given two different names" so they are asking if someone has a real name on him.
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@RollingStone LM still has all of his jackets on, zipped open. He is placed up against the wall of the precinct, on screen we see him glancing over his right shoulder back at a police officer speaking. "What is your name?" Luigi. Luigi what? Mangione.
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@RollingStone The medical patient is removed. "No they have the passport."-LM "It's in the bag?" -police "Yeah"-LM
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@RollingStone Ask LM for his DOB and if he knows his social security . "Yes sir." (muted for privacy) He says he's right-handed. "What color are your eyes?" "Um, brown."
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@RollingStone We can't see LM it's facing the shoes which are sneakers, white black and maybe grey with red/orange inside. Cop tells him he can only have one jacket on 10:13:57
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@RollingStone I think they are taking his jacket layers off. He's now in blue sweater. He's like pulling out his blue longsleeve shirt and kind of like moving it around, maybe to air it out. They are trying to get him down to one layer.
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@RollingStone IRL LM is making notes. "You married at all?" No. "Single?" Yeah. You have all your teeth? Mmmhmm. military service? no have you been arrested before? No
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@RollingStone LM instructed by Frye to remove necklace. "What was on the necklace?" "A USB." "Where did he place it?" "On the table." Has watch and placed it on table.
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@RollingStone "What's your home address?" "Umm.." pause. "Or somewhere you get mail?" [mute/redacted as Luigi responds] Bodycam footage still facing down at form. "Are you employed anywhere?" "Not currently" Do you have any scars marks or tattoos?
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@RollingStone Wasser comes up and tells someone they found a gun.
10:16:26 Is that the only scar? Any other tattoos? Do you have an emergency contact. Umm... pause.. "No." Do you have any medical conditions. [can't see if responds] Any medications you're on? "No."
10:16:26 Is that the only scar? Any other tattoos? Do you have an emergency contact. Umm... pause.. "No." Do you have any medical conditions. [can't see if responds] Any medications you're on? "No."
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@RollingStone LM leans on wall. He's taking off his pants and there are blue jeans underneath. Blue peanut butter jar on table. Really almost positive it is Skippy. He's cuffed again now in his blue long sleeve shirt and blue jeans
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@RollingStone IRL LM holds his left hand two fingers to his neck and watches the courtroom monitor. "{What are you doing there?" Asks Seidelmann. "Unshackling the defendants legs" why were yo udoing that "to get him down to one layer of clothing"
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@RollingStone "Which do you prefer your long johns or your blue jeans?" "Blue jeans" - responds LM "You're going to have to switch 'em" says the cop. "Okay." You can only have one pair "I can't do that without my hands." Cop helps LM take his jeans off and he has black leggings on.
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@RollingStone LM is still cuffed as screen is blurred and they change his pants. He is spelling his last name once again.
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@RollingStone Cop walks up, says they can take LM's handcuffs off him. He has his hands up on the wall in front of him. Light blue (boxers?) blurred out at the bottom and they are talking about doing an in-depth search. In-depth search means he'd bd taken into another room naked. no body cams
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@RollingStone Frye says they don't do in-depth searches very often. On screen. someone says something like he had multiple pants on "Do you want one?"
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@RollingStone On screen LM has kind of an awkward expression on as they talk about the indepth search. Bodycam is muted. Then LM takes off his long sleeve blue shirt and is maybe just in boxers. Homan steps outside of door to make sure nobody comes in.
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@RollingStone Footage now of Homan outside of Altoona PD looking at rainy parking lot. Presumably, LM being searched inside. IRL LM takes notes.
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@RollingStone We hear cop outside cough and spit then reurn inside as LM has long sleeve shirt on and jeans and is barefoot. Ask him again for an emergency contact and another officer says he didnt have one. They ask him something else and he gives his mom's name. Kathy Mangione.
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@RollingStone Is that where she actually lives? "I don't know the new address." [LM's family had moved over the summer.]
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@RollingStone I think the something else they asked him was if something were to happen to him who they could contact. They also asked him to spell her last name and he said same as mine and then he had to re-spell it again.
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@RollingStone What was your last employer? TrueCar. It's a software engineering company." unemployed how long has that been since. Like about a year.
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@RollingStone "The homeless man that was taken out defecated in the cell and we were not going to put the defendant in that cell." Sounds like they called him poopy pants on video. Someone adds: "His poop pants are still in the hallway."
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@RollingStone After handing LM black socks he puts on and discussing what cell to put him in, we see LM led out. Now Detwiler's bodycam footage starts from when LM gets to station.
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@RollingStone To clarify the mom's address thing, LM's parents moved away from his childhood home to a new house in (if I'm remembering correctly) summer 2024, which is likely why he didn't have the new address memorized. He had given the old address then they asked if she still lived there
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@RollingStone ICYMI LM had been estranged from his family prior to his arrest, his mom had filled out a missing person's report in November saying she hadn't spoken to him since July. She filed it in SF, where she thought his last employer was based.
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@RollingStone More on that, including my interview with the SF officer who identified him as UHC suspect from missing person's report: rollingstone.com/culture/cultur…
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@RollingStone Back at 10:13:22. Frye testifies that policy is his handcuffs can be removed once his ankle cuffs are on "if the prisoner is being cooperative." LM gets his handcuffs removed.
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@RollingStone LM says he's 5'11 and then says he's about 160 lbs and I think adds that he's not really sure about the weight but he speaks quickly and mumbles so it was hard for me to tell. He has also said he had three layers of clothes on and I think says it's cold?
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@RollingStone Someone says it's cold, couldnt tell if it was LM or a cop. Then he removes his dickey (black scarf thing I referenced earlier). We are back to when his hands were free. Cop says his stuff will be in the locker. Someone else is coughing. Maybe not so many antibodies in Altoona.
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@RollingStone Wasser has the backpack over on a chair to the left of Mangione, says there's a weapon but Frye said he hadn't heard that at the time.
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@RollingStone "We need to get you down to one layer of pant"
"I’m going to keep just the jeans." -LM
He pulls his jeans down to his ankles but can’t fully take them off because his ankles are shackled. Then they cuff his hands so they can unshackle his ankles
"I’m going to keep just the jeans." -LM
He pulls his jeans down to his ankles but can’t fully take them off because his ankles are shackled. Then they cuff his hands so they can unshackle his ankles
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@RollingStone LM is fully cooperating, answering questions and listening to instructions.
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@RollingStone We're back at moment where LM is like "I don't know if I can do that with my hands [cuffed]" when they tell him he needs to swap out his leggings and put his jeans back on. Cops remove his pants. You can take the handcuffs off him. "You're not going to do anything dumb are you?"
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@RollingStone Back to LM not knowing his mom's new address. -- The reason we’re asking is If something were to happen and you were to die here need to know how to notify her. -- he gives them her phone number [redacted]
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@RollingStone Frye finds a paper in back right pocket in jeans LM was wearing (but are now off of him.) Bus ticket. "Some kind of bus pass information for Pittsburgh"
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@RollingStone I believe this Pittsburgh bus ticket info is new?? But could be wrong.
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@RollingStone LM again says he's been unemployed from TruCar for about a year. "We’re not going to put him in poopy pants’ cell" - the police says on screen. Now new footage.
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@RollingStone Frye bodycam footage is currently muted, People are counting money that I think was from the blue Hawaiian wallet. Looks like USD can't see the foreign currency. They pick up LM's black jacket and remove a blue medical mask. Unmuted at 10:32:00
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@RollingStone DA says they agreed with counsel to mute the sound for a couple of seconds at 10:32:30. They were talking about LM's black dickey, and then the other man "leaving his shit" behind. Then its muted.
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@RollingStone Cop holding LM's Maryland license. Then someone hands over NJ, "This is the fake one." "Someone took his passport I handed his passport to someone." -Wasser
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@RollingStone "More likely than not he has a handgun... He had a checklist for today. Tomorrow he's supposed to do an intel checkin [...something about "a survival kit"] yesterday he went to best buy bought some USBs digital camera."
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@RollingStone I believe these (alleged) checklists found in the backpack are new. New references to an intel check-in and survival kit and buying a digital camera at Best Buy. (We knew he'd been to Best Buy).
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@RollingStone Those shoes I saw before were not LMs -- he had black sneakers they just showed in the picture as showing evidence. With black laces. One additional black lace was found in his pocket. Silver usb with silver chain.
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@RollingStone In the picture of one of the pants LM was wearing, I think the black outer pants, it looks like they were wet on one side.
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@RollingStone I **think** the front of the pants were wet. But we are looking at still photos that are dark so it's hard to say and can't be confident.
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@RollingStone The photos are not dark, the pants are dark. They flashed on screen quickly and I'm tweeting quickly so really don't want to overdramatize that.
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@RollingStone They just flashed the handwritten checklist, I'll try to put more details in a bit showing more photos. Now bus information from Wednesday 12/4 I actually think we did know this bus info before
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@RollingStone The checklist was numbered 12/8 and 12/9 had things like AAA batteries on list and hot meal and water bottles. trash bag(s). It said something about archiving LNM, and I think said LI, X. Presumably about archiving his social media
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@RollingStone New: Bus ticket says Sam Dawson 8C, 1 carry on and 1 stored bag. It's for Dec. 4.
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@RollingStone Septa ticket 12/04/2024 drexel station at 30th st 1:06PM. There is also a Visa gift card credit card looks like
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@RollingStone One of the pairs of pants again -- same as before but they dont look wet (maybe it was just me?) just dirty at the bottom.
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@RollingStone Black Columbia sneakers, showing a lot photos of the sneaker
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@RollingStone ****Sam Dawson**** I don't recall knowing that alias as one LM used in the past.
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@RollingStone Now asking Frye about his PA report if he was connected to anybody in city of NY. Frye has testified to the grand jury in the past, said he'd never been to NY before that. LM leaning his head to the left onto his two fingers as Frye testifies
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@RollingStone Nothing further from prosecution for Frye. Witness dismissed. DA is providing some exhibits from today shortly, judge says.
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@RollingStone Lunch break
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@RollingStone Come to order. "Come out" the corrections officer and LM walks in.
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@RollingStone Marc Agnifilo says there is "gamesmanship" happening because the prosecution rescheduled Officer Fox for tomorrow when he has to leave early. Seidemann says it's not "gamesmanship"
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@RollingStone Seidemann says the witness after Frye (who is female, missed her name) he's trying to get her home to her family.
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@RollingStone Wasser is the woman. They are debating when Wasser and Fox are going to testify because Marc Agnifilo is handling Wasser. Both witnesses are here.
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@RollingStone Seidemann says his direct on Fox is about an hour. Marc Agnifilo says they changed the order of the witness lst after he told them he was. Seidmann says he rejects the mud-slinging. Carro says they should put Fox on first
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@RollingStone Seidemann says things are going slowly, there should be flexibility in how they approach the scheduling. "We'll do the best we can" - Carro. Frye comes back in for cross
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@RollingStone JK. Seidemann is asking some more questions of Frye.
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@RollingStone J Kaplan objects to Seidemann giving Frye a transcript from his bodycam. "He doesnt need a transcript someone else wrote to recall what happened." - J Kaplan
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@RollingStone Situation between prosecution and defense seems more tense than prior days.
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@RollingStone Seidemann plays footage from bodycam where Mangione responds and it's muffled and hard to hear. "Should this bodyworn camera transcript assist you in refreshing your recollection?"
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@RollingStone Frye at McDonald's has asked LM "What's going on" and asks him why he is in NJ. "I dont know what you guys are up to, I’m just going to wait. What’s going on?" -Luigi responds
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@RollingStone J Kaplan heads up for cross and asks Frye if he's heard the DA's questions before. Frye said he's heard them several times before, confirms he spoke to DA about his testimony in the morning before questioning.
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@RollingStone J Kaplan (I'm going to just say Kaplan from now on) asks when Frye finished training at Altoona, which was six months before the Mangione arrest.
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@RollingStone Mangione, hand on his chin is looking back and forth between Frye testifying and Kaplan's rapid-fire questions. Kaplan is talking about how Frye was training under Detwiler, Frye responds it wasn't official training it was more learning about traffic law.
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@RollingStone Kaplan speaks faster than everybody else so far, so I'm going to be slower on transcribing.
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@RollingStone Kaplan asking Frye if he thought when going to McDonalds he was possibly approaching NYC shooter. Possibly, responds Frye.
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@RollingStone When you entered McDonalds, "did anybody point where you should go?" "No" -Frye. Kaplan establishing there are walls behind and to left of Mangione and a table in front of him.
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@RollingStone "Is there a space between Patrolman Detwiler and the wall?" "A small space." Kaplan tries to ask if a man could get around the officer in that space and ADA's objection sustained.
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@RollingStone "I had a very high suspection [sic] at that point." - Frye on whether he thought Mangione resembled the UHC shooter when LM pulled down his mask.
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@RollingStone Kaplan is calling out Frye for mispronouncing Mark Rosario's last name when first calling it in, Frye says he had the driver license ID number, Kaplan says still, you mispronounced Rosario.
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@RollingStone Kaplan asks if at that time Frye believed he was a UHC shooter. "Would it be a big deal to you if you were the man that arrested the NYC shooter?" Objection. Sustained.
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@RollingStone Altoona's a small town, asks Kaplan. Frye says it's roughly 40K. Would be a big deal if shooting suspect arrested there. Objection. Sustained.
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@RollingStone Did you hear Patrolman Detwiler ask him why are you nervous?
Is that the same question [ADA] asked you when you first sat down this morning?
Objection, sustained.
Is that the same question [ADA] asked you when you first sat down this morning?
Objection, sustained.
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@RollingStone Mangione is speaking to KFA and gesturing with his hands in a lively fashion. KFA smiles at him and they keep talking.
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@RollingStone "Did they tell you, you can lie to a subject to get a statement?" Kaplan asks Frye. Frye confirms they are trained to be able to use a ruse. Kaplan asks if he was trying to get information from LM. Frye says he was trying to talk to him.
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@RollingStone Kaplan points out that when Frye's talking to LM, there are no suspicions of a fake ID yet.
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@RollingStone J Kaplan asks Frye if he's ever heard about a loitering policy at McDonalds which Frye confirms he has not.
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@RollingStone Kaplan shows footage and confirms with Frye that after LM reached down near backpack (in footage), neither Frye nor Detwiler moved the backpack away
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@RollingStone Officer asks LM if he's from Jersey. He says DMV, and the officers don't know what he's saying so he says "Yes, surrounding states." Frye says you mean Delaware, Maryland, Virginia? And LM nods and kind of like shakes his hand at them to yes, something like that.
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@RollingStone I would be okay never discussing this DMV Delaware/DC thing ever again.
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@RollingStone The man is not acting aggressively, correct? He's just cleaning his McDonald's trash and wiping his mouth? Yes. (Kaplan and Frye)
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@RollingStone In court, LM was taking more notes than usual before lunch. He's chatting on and off with KFA post lunch.
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@RollingStone Kaplan points out "the man" (LM) never said don't move my backpack or don't touch my backpack. Frye confirms.
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@RollingStone In video LM says 9:44:08 you guys "calling a couple more cars?" Then LM says he's not that big, he's just wearing a puffy jacket
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@RollingStone At 9:49:22 Officer Fox asks Mangione why he used a fake ID and he invokes his right to remain silent. Soon after he's searched.
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@RollingStone Fox asks him if he had any weapons, Mangione says no, just a jar of peanut butter. Fox still frisking him and Mangione says he has a pocket knife on him. Kaplan asks Frye to confirm this was before the pocket knife was found.
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@RollingStone 9:51:24 pocket knife placed on table in front of him.
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@RollingStone J Kaplan says if court wants to take a break at any time, he's amenable. Carro says yes take a break. LM puts his pen down and places his hands behind him as he's handcuffed and led back out to the holding cell. Short break.
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@RollingStone Sofia Agnifilo is walking down the hallway outside of court arm in arm with her grandmother. “Isn’t she the best?” She says.
Full family affair today.
Full family affair today.
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@RollingStone Back. LM uncuffed. "This is going longer than I thought." says Carro, adding that he doesn't think it helps either side to have witnesses recount whats happening on video. "This isn't trial" asks to try to move it along.
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@RollingStone Kaplan points out that the photos of Mangione's black sneakers have an NYPD tag/sticker next to them. He asks Frye if it's standard operating procedure that the Altoona police have NY police taking their pictures. (paraphrasing)
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@RollingStone Do you recall ever being part of an in-depth search or strip search for an arrest in regards to a forgery? -JK I do not. -Frye
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@RollingStone He never acted belligerent to you did he? No. He didn’t argue with police, did he? No. He never reached for his backpack at the McDonalds, did he? No.
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@RollingStone He never reached for the pocket knife. He even told Fox that he had a pocket knife even after Fox had already patted that section in his pat down, correct? I think so. We just watched video. Correct.
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@RollingStone Right now we are watching Frye place clothes into a Lowe's bag, he testifies at this point he didn't think this clothing was part of evidence. That they were personal property instead.
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@RollingStone Frye said when NYPD showed up, all of the items were turned over to Patrolman Featherstone. Seidemann asks if he knew what was of evidentiary value. Evidence vs inventory for NYC purposes in murder of Thompson.
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@RollingStone "You're calling out what is in the bag correct?" -- This is the moment that was muted before, J Kaplan goes over to whisper something to Seidemann. Starting at 10:32:08
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@RollingStone The Altoona cops on footage are talking about what is inventory or evidence. IRL KFA hands Mangione what looks like a blue post-it note.
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@RollingStone Sorry just realized I never announced when we went back to Seidemann. It's after JK established that LM was compliant. Seidemann now asking if at any point in McD cops surrounded the table. Frye says no.
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@RollingStone Now we are going back to when LM asks if they are calling more cop cars. "Can I ask why there's so many cops here?" -LM "Who asked that" "Defendant" "Was that well after he said send a couple more cop cars (?)" Yes
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@RollingStone Seidemann points out that even though LM told Fox about the knife in his pocket, "For 17 minutes he sat there with a knife in his pocket?" "Yes"- Frye
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@RollingStone Seidemann asks if Frye's aware that NYPD took their own pictures after Altoona PD took pictures. Kaplan objects that it's leading, judge allows, Frye says he didnt know that.
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@RollingStone Now we see photo of the silver Kershaw pocketknife (along with some small black zipties) in evidence. Seidemann asks if the weapon has a blade and can cause harm. (objections)
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@RollingStone Seidemann points out that LM didn't say he had a knife when asked if he had a weapon. LM hands the blue post it note from KFA over to Marc who hands to Jacob Kaplan.
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@RollingStone LM is head down once again writing notes. He's been doing this more today than the other two days.
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@RollingStone Seidemann asks how long LM was there before he told Frye who he really was. Ten plus minutes. J Kaplan goes back up
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@RollingStone Do you recall being asked on redirect about Mr. Mangione [saying] send more cop cars?-JK He more asked. He didn't give a directive to send more cop cars.-JK He asked if more cop cars were coming?-JK Yes. -Frye
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@RollingStone I was also confused about that J Kaplan clarified that Mangione was asking if they called more cop cars which is what I had heard originally. Now Kaplan is talking about the pocketknife and asked if LM ever reached for it, which Frye says he never did.
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@RollingStone At no point in 13 min [while you say you feared for your safety] after approaching Mr. Mangione did you move the backpack that was near his feet?
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@RollingStone Seidemann asked something about the execution of Brian Thompson, J Kaplan objects to use of the word "execute"
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@RollingStone Seidemann trying to establish Frye's feelings about the Thompson arrest when he walked into McDonald's but after a Kaplan objection, judge instructs him to move on. Kaplan has Frye reiterate he never moved backpack while in McD.
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@RollingStone Carro has all attorneys approach bench. We have had I think 7 witnesses in three days and there are supposed to be about 30-31 total
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@RollingStone Carro says we will be back here tomorrow at 9:30AM.