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🪡🧵 Debunking Melanie Adele Martinez's sexual assault allegations made by former friends Timothy Lauren Heller & Madeleine Ciciliot Carina: A thread

Content Warning: This thread will cover topics such as abuse, human trafficking, rape, sexual assault, trauma and violence

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Hello everyone. I decided to remake my thread for personal reasons. No new information is going to be added here. My intention is not to waste your valuable time. If you want to read a short version of this thread you can check the quoted post here:

x.com/areallytireddo…

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Disclaimers:
1. Be respectful. Don't send any hate to Melanie Martinez, Timothy Heller, Madeleine Carina or anyone else mentioned in this thread. The main purpose of this thread is to disprove the Melanie Martinez's SA allegations, as well as clearing up some misconceptions

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2. Be cautious & be safe. Prioritize your mental health. You should only read this thread if you feel comfortable. All of the points covered in this thread are public information that is already available online. I condemn any act of stalking, bullying and public harassment

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3. Remember that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and bringing forth their own ideas and beliefs. I can't force you to believe in something that you don't want to believe. Due to safety & privacy reasons, I will disable the comments of this thread before posting it

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4. I'm not a lawyer nor a doctor. I'm not a psychologist nor a psychiatrist. This post was made for educational purposes. Look at the evidence and form your own opinion. Credits go to the owners of the copyrighted material. This thread falls under Twitter's fair use policy.

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5. If a tweet appears as if it has been deleted it's because Twitter limits tweets that contain broken links (which I use as sources). In an effort to prevent this from happening I'm going to separate my sources & archives into 2 separate posts. Apologies for the formatting

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This thread consists of 10 Chapters:

Chapter One (10/300): The Statements
Chapter Two (50/300): By The Numbers
Chapter Three (90/300): The Pieces Of Evidence Found
Chapter Four (150/300): The Timeline Of Events
Chapter Five (180/300): Addressing The Incident Of 11/16/2017

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Chapter Six (210/300): Addressing Misconceptions/Rumors
Chapter Seven (250/300): Explaining The Meaning Behind Piggyback And Why It's Not A Diss Track
Chapter Eight (260/300): The Maddie Carina Allegations
Chapter Nine (270/300): [Redacted]
Chapter Ten (290/300): Conclusion

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Chapter One: Addressing The Melanie Martinez And Timothy Heller Statements

On 12/04/2017, Timothy Heller accused former friend Melanie Martinez of sexual assault during a two-night sleepover they had on 2015. Pause and read.

Source [Broken Link]: x.com/timethyheller/…

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Archive: web.archive.org/web/2017070100…

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There is something off about Timothy's letter from the start. Timothy said that she never meant to name Melanie as her abuser while she was writing her letter, and she only decided to name Melanie in the tweet (which is separated from the letter) moments before posting it.

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People disagree as there is enough info to identify Melanie as her alleged abuser without the need of naming her. For example: Timothy stating that her alleged abuser has a dedicated group of fans. This directly means that the person in question is a public figure/famous.

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Timothy doubles down on this point stating that some of her alleged abuser fans became her fans, but eventually they stopped supporting Timothy. So not only this person is famous, but also they share interests or careers similar enough for them to share the same fanbases.

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From what I had researched the only people who Timothy was friends/acquaintances at the time who fit these criteria (a female best friend who is also famous singer) was either Melanie or Abigail Breslin, and Abigail's main fanbase comes from her acting and not her singing.

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Also please don't send hate to Abigail Breslin as the only reason I mentioned her is to get my point across better. I'm not going to mention her again expect for a specific point that I'm going to bring up way later on so put a pin on that. Side note over, let's continue.

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The point that I'm trying to make is that people could had identify Melanie as Timothy's alleged abuser in her letter without the need of explicitly naming Melanie. All it would have taken is a little effort & being capable enough to pick-up the context clues in her post.

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There are also rumors that Timothy originally planned to accuse her former band member from Dresses (Jared) of sexual assault and later changed her alleged abuser's name and pronouns to Melanie. This is completely unfounded since there's no evidence that support the claim.

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While it's true that Timothy did in fact accuse Jared Ryan of mental abuse back in October 2017, the accusations made against Jared and the accusations made against Melanie are two completely different subjects that deserve their own rigorous research and thorough analysis

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Jared never came forward defending himself against the accusations made by Timothy so either he's not aware that he was accused of mental abuse or he is aware and decided to stay silent. Needless to say: Do not send any hate to Jared either.
Source: atwoodmagazine.com/th-sleep-timot…

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Archive: web.archive.org/web/2017070100…

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If Timothy's true intentions were to not named her alleged abuser (or at least make it less easy for people to not identify her alleged abuser) she would have opted to use gender neutral pronouns instead. But people have bigger/more important observations than all of this.

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Timothy claimed that one of the reasons she posted her letter was because she got encouraged by #MeToo. The purpose of #MeToo is to build a community where survivors (particularly young women) feel comfortable to come forward and share their personal experiences of abuse.

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#MeToo was never meant to be used as a tool/instrument to accuse others. If you read #MeToo stories from other people before and after 2017 you will notice that their posts are lived personal experiences to help other women and were never meant to be taken as accusations.

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Timothy said that the reason she posted her letter is to help women but there are no signs in her original post that support this idea except of the last paragraph which, simply put, doesn't fit it in with the rest of the body of text and could be read as an after-thought.

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Timothy being a mental health supporter and an advocate for sexual assault survivors should had known the difference between sharing an alleged lived personal experience of abuse and openly accusing a person and justifying it by utilizing real #MeToo stories posted online.

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For some people (including real survivors of sexual assault & violence) this is enough reason to doubt Timothy's real intentions of posting her letter, and other eyebrow-raising behavior that we will discuss later. But for now, we are going to address Melanie's statements.

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In the late hours of 12/04/2017 Melanie released her first official statement denying Timothy's accusations. Melanie's response (11:37PM PST) was posted roughly six hours later after Timothy's post (5:56PM PST).
Pause and read.
Source [Broken Link]: x.com/MelanieLBBH/st…

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Before analyzing both Melanie & Timothy's statements I need to be really clear: It's not out of place for me to say that both statements were poorly written and most of these controversies could had been avoided if the two of them had taken more time to write them properly

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I understand that both of them have anxiety and difficulty asserting themselves but it comes to a point when you need to be more assertive while addressing these serious topics if you don't want people to take your words out of context and painting a picture that is false.

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This is a tip for everyone reading this: If you are accused of a crime you didn't commit, your common sense & judgement are your best allies. Don't rush a statement that people will take out of context no matter how well written it is and consult a legal team if necessary.

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My most sincere apologies for the next portion of this thread but I really need to drive this point home. The general public misquoted Melanie's statement as "she never said no" instead of quoting her full statement which was "she never no to what we chose to do together."

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Now, "she never said no to what we chose to do together" is a poorly written statement and it should be called out. A 22-year-old woman should had known better and not address these serious accusations like this. However, a poorly written post is not an admission of guilt.

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I'm aware of the implications behind the phrase "she never said no" and its negative connotations surrounding it. However, Melanie was not using the phrase in that way and she was not contributing to rape culture by using it. Context is key and understanding is everything.

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"She never said no to what we chose to do together" was a direct response to Timothy's letter where she stated that she repeatedly said no to the idea of having sex. The verb “chose” expresses consent as it was a choice between them. Melanie was just denying her statement.

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The reason why Melanie's statement was misinterpreted is because most people did not read Timothy's letter so they did not know the full meaning and context behind her response.

Timothy: "I repeatedly said no."
Melanie: "She never said no to what we chose to do together."

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• More examples:

"I said no"
"She never said no to what we chose to do together"

"I said every form of no I could think of"
"She never said no to what we chose to do together"

"I never said yes. I said no, repeatedly"
"She never said no to what we chose to do together"

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If person A says: "I was sexually assaulted by person B, I repeatedly said no to the idea of having sex" and person B says: "That's not true, she never said no to what we chose to do together" is an odd yet understandable response. Her wording was awful but awful ≠ guilty

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If Melanie had worded her post differently people would still attack her. For example, if Melanie said "she said yes to what we chose to do together" people would have quoted the part in Timothy's post that read "I never said yes. I said no, repeatedly" and call her a liar

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Is a lose-lose situation, a zugzwang: If she had taken the legal route people would've accused her of silencing her "victims." If she had remained silent they would've attacked her for not taking it seriously. She responded and now she's still being attacked because of it.

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Decontextualizing someone's words and then using it against them is a bad argument. If you explain to someone in the clearest & earnest way possible the meaning of something but they keep doubling down and counter-acting the impossible, the fault lands on them, not on you.

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Melanie isn't saying that she took advantage of Timothy because she "never said no," Melanie is stating that their encounter was consensual because, contrary to Timothy's letter, she didn't object to the sexual activities they chose to do together. A choice requires agency

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They had consensual sex. Now, why was Melanie's statement so ambiguous? To my understanding, it may had been written that way to dissuade people from reading Timothy's letter. But also remember that Melanie didn't identify as part of the LGBTQ+ community back in Dec, 2017.

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Melanie came out as bisexual during a Q&A on July 2018 at her own pace and timing. And I am not saying that survivors of SA shouldn't out their alleged abusers if they are LGBTQ+. I'm saying that from Melanie's POV she was outted worldwide and her sexuality became a show.

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Both of Melanie and Timothy's sexualities became a spectacle for everyone to have an opinion on and comment on. Millions of people using this situation to incorrectly justify their misogyny, homophobia and biphobia towards them. And I, personally, don't think that is fair.

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Melanie Martinez released a second official statement on December 9th, 2017 where she reaffirms her innocence expressed on her previous letter by stating "I would never be intimate with someone without their absolute consent."

Source [Broken Link]: x.com/melanielbbh/st…

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Despite Melanie saying "I would never be intimate with someone without their absolute consent," people misquote her statement on purpose. They continue to misquote it as "she never said no" instead of "I would never be intimate with someone without their absolute consent."

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Because the quote "I would never be intimate with someone without their absolute consent" doesn't help them push this narrative of Melanie being a self-admitted rapist. Melanie stated that they engaged in consensual sex but never stated a specific date. Put a pin on that.

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Now, we have encountered a dilemma. We have two people that had posted very poorly written statements that are diametrically opposed to one another & completely contradict each other. How can we determine who is telling the truth and who is lying? Where do we go from here?

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Chapter Two: By The Numbers
People had already made up their minds at this point. Some people decided to support Melanie, others decided to support Timothy. Some separate the art from the artist (an ethical debate with its pros and cons), others disengage from their music.

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But you can't support them both because that's a middle ground fallacy: Both of them can't be telling the truth at the same time. Because SA is a predetermined/intentional act of violence: You can't accidentally SA someone. An intention is a deliberate act, not an accident

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One of the points used against my older thread is to mention the misguided belief that only 1 out of 200 SA cases are false. I understand the concerns and I'm going to address this. The goal of this chapter is to recontextualize this argument from an ethical point of view.

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First, we need to know if the data comes from a reputable source. The debate that only 0.5% cases of SA are false comes from a 2010 study titled "Rape: Too Hard To Report And Too Easy To Discredit Victims" published by criminologist Joanne Belknap:
journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/10…

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She backed-up her study by citing an article titled "False Allegations Of Sexual Assault: An Analysis Of 10 Years Of Reported Cases" made by psychologist David Lisak (2010). In the article he analyzed all cases of SA reported to a University in Boston over a 10-year period

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Lisak and his team concluded that 8 out of 136 cases had sufficient ground to be qualified as false accusations (roughly 5.9%). The study took into account older research which indicated that the prevalence of false SA accusations is between 2%-10%.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21164210/

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If Lisak said that 5% or 1 out of 20 reported cases of SA are false, then why did Belknap said that 0.5% or 1 out of 200 reported cases of SA are false? That's because Belknap took into account the percentage of SA cases that are never reported/notified to the authorities.

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Belknap said that because 90% of SA cases are never reported to the police, the total amount of rape cases (including those reported and not reported to the police) consists of 99.5% real cases and 0.5% false cases. So, is it accurate to say Belknap is a reputable source?

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The short answer is "yes." But the long answer is way more complicated. The problem arises when you realize that the determinant factors that decide the percentage of false SA accusations change depending on your source. That is where the margin of error comes into place.

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The determinant factors that decide the percentage of false SA cases include the prevalence of false SA cases, the percentage of SA cases that aren't reported to the police, the sample size, the time period, the time frame in which the study took place and other variables.

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Joanne Belknap concluded that 1 out of 200 SA cases are false based on a study in which the determinant factors used were: A 5% prevalence of false SA cases, a sample size of 136 cases over a 10-year period & a 90% percentage of SA cases that aren't reported to the police.

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In contrast, a 2018 article published by CNN: "Trump Says It's A 'Scary Time' For Men. Here Are The Stats On False Sexual Assault Claims," The National Sexual Violence Resource Center states that the prevalence of false SA cases is between 2% & 10%.
edition.cnn.com/2018/10/03/hea…

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In a study of SA cases reported to the LA Police Department in 2008, researchers found that the rate of false reports was 4.5% (Spohn, White, & Tellis, 2014). "What Percentage Of Rape Reports Are False?" by End Violence Against Woman International:
evawintl.org/best_practice_…

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In a multi-site study of 8 U.S. communities made by the Making A Difference Project, 140 out of 2,059 SA cases reported in a 18-24 month period were classified as false (roughly 7%).
The National Center for the Prosecution of Violence Against Women:
nsvrc.org/publications/a…

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To give a summary before continuing, we can determine that the prevalence of false SA accusations depends on the sources used:

• CNN (2018) & NSVRC (2012): Between 2% & 10%
• LAPD (2008): 4.5%
• Lisak (2010): 5%
• NCPVAW (2009) & Making A Difference Project (2009): 7%

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And while all of the sources cited previously come from US Territory, statistics regarding the prevalence of false SA cases appear to coincide internationally. In a study published by London Metropolitan University 2,643 reported SA cases were studied over a 15-year period

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During the study, the researchers and the British Police differed on the real percentage of the prevalence. Initially, the Police concluded that the prevalence of false SA cases was 8%. However, the researchers concluded that the prevalence of false SA accusations was 2%.

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The range between 2%-8% obtained from London Metropolitan University aligns with the range between 2%-10% reported by The NSVRC.

"Home Office Research Study 293: A Gap Or A Chasm? Attrition In Reported Rape Cases" by London Metropolitan University
researchgate.net/publication/23…

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Going down from 10% to 2% is a decrease of 8 percent points or an 80-percent decrease and moving up from 2% to 10% is an increase of 8 percent points or a 400-percent increase. These numbers can't be ignored. They reflect a real problem in the prevalence of false SA cases.

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Estimates of the rate of false reports vary widely because the criteria used in the police vary in each state. The Uniform Crime Reporting Program (NSVRC, 2012) identifies three main ways to clear a case: Cleared by arrest, cleared by exception and the unfounded category.

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Subdivisions for the unfounded category
False Report: A reported crime to law enforcement that an investigation factually proves never occurred.
Baseless Report: One in which it's determined that the incident doesn't meet the elements of the crime but is presumed truthful.

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Not all cases of false reports are attributed to malicious intentions, as there has been instances of improper documentation & mistaken identification in some incidents. A report can only be classified as a false report once a proper investigation/study has been concluded.

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None of the five studies I cited earlier took into account SA accusations made on social media, only crime data that has been voluntarily submitted to the police & law enforcement. To say that these organizations also study SA accusations posted online is a great mistake.

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Police department/law enforcement don't investigate SA accusations posted on social media because their priority is to process SA accusations that are already reported in their agencies. Investing police time/resources in SA accusations posted online is counterproductive.

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Sexual assault & rape accusations posted on social media don't have journalists to verify the accuracy of the information that is being posted. These types of accusations don't need to meet any of the requirements or criteria used in the police department/law enforcement.

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Someone who has malicious intentions to falsely accuse others would choose to accuse them online instead to the police. Thus, their accusation could not be classified as a false report and it would not be part of the prevalence of false SA cases. If you're falsely accused:

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As criminologist Dr. Brent Turvey (AP News, 2020) has stated: "[The two-percent figure] is not only inaccurate, but also it has no basis in reality. Reporting it publicly as a valid frequency rate with any empirical basis is either scientifically negligent or fraudulent."

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He added: "The power of any lie is equal only to our desire to believe it. [...] Specifically, our need and eagerness to believe it. This is the problem with belief, which is accepting something as true or correct without proof."
40 Percent, AP News
apnews.com/article/b5c40b…

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Once explained the prevalence of false SA cases, we can now define the percentage of all rape cases that are never reported to the police. The NSVRC states that 63% of sexual assaults are not reported to the police.

Statistic About Sexual Violence:
nsvrc.org/sites/default/…

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The University Of Massachusetts Amherst estimates that the percentage of all rape cases (including attempted rapes) that are never reported to the police varies between 60% and 90% percent.
Sexual Assault, Rape Prevention, Reporting, And Counseling:
umass.edu/umpd/sexual-as…

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If you calculate the percentage of false SA cases based on the lowest rate in the prevalence of false SA cases (2%) and the highest rate in the percentage of SA cases that are never reported to the police (90%) the answer is 0.2% (one out of 500 SA cases are false reports)

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If you calculate the percentage of false SA cases based on the highest rate in the prevalence of false SA cases (10%) & the lowest rate in the percentage of SA cases that are never reported to the police (60%) the answer is 4% (twenty out of 500 SA cases are false reports)

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If Person A states: "Only one in 500 cases of SA are false reports" and Person B responds: "In reality only twenty in 500 cases of SA are false reports," they are both correct and wrong at the same time. This phenomenon is known as true contradictions/contradictory truths.

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Another example is the Zen Buddhist Philosophy of "not one, not two." Zen Buddhism rejects both dualism (two) and monism, or non-dualism (one). In other words: It is not entirely accurate to say everything is separate, but it is also not accurate to say that we're all one.

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If someone picks 500 SA cases at random 19 SA cases will fall under the margin of error. And this result is only obtained by taking the numbers at face value. We haven't addressed societal issues as minority groups are more likely to be accused of crimes they didn't commit

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We do not live under a misconstrued utilitarian theory of ethics where punishing a potentially innocent person is morally justified. Political philosopher Stephen Nathanson points out the importance of justice, rights and the normative concept of desert in legal dilemmas:

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"[Rule utilitarians] don't reject concepts like justice, rights, and desert. Instead, they accept and use these concepts but interpret them from the perspective of maximizing utility." He then mentions the problems of wrongful convictions, as it poses a challenge to them:

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"While we hope that our [criminal justice system] gives people fair trials and conscientiously attempts to separate the innocent from the guilty, we know that the system isn't perfect. As a result people who are innocent are sometimes [punished] for crimes they didn't do."

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He concludes that both Act & Rule utilitarians build their morality by setting a relationship between their moral code & moral perspective (how their actions impact others).
Excerpts retrieved from "Act And Rule Utilitarianism" by Stephen Nathanson:
iep.utm.edu/util-a-r/#H6

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Rape cases go beyond numbers and statistics. A thorough analysis of each and every single case is the only way to guarantee the well-being of everyone involved. To dismiss all cases as "there is no need to investigate because 99.5% are telling the truth" is irresponsible.

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Chapter Three: The Pieces Of Evidence Found
Timothy corroborated her statements by giving 2 pieces of evidence: The first piece of evidence was a pic of Melanie during the alleged sleepover which was sent to Newsweek. The second piece of evidence was a video of her iCloud.

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On December 5th, 2017, the day after she posted her statement, Timothy did an exclusive interview with Newsweek addressing the allegations. The article was written by Emily Gaudette. Read the interview in full before continuing this thread.
Archive: web.archive.org/web/2017050100…

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This is the (alleged) timeline of events presented by Timothy in the article:

• The night of June 24th, 2015: The night of the first sleepover.
• The night of June 25th, 2015: The night of the second sleepover.
• The day of June 26th, 2015: The day after the sleepover.

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This part is important: I am going to provide context as to why the dates presented on the Newsweek article were June 24th-June 25th and not June 25th-June 26th. The article describes June 25th as: "[The night in question when] Martinez pressured her into sexual contact."

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In Timothy's original statement the alleged abuse happened on the second night of the sleepover and not on the first night. The article states that Melanie pressured Timothy into sexual contact on June 25, making June 24-June 25 the more accurately depicted/portrayed dates

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Because if June 25 and June 26 were the dates actually presented, that would contradict Timothy's own timeline of events by describing the first night of the sleepover (in this hypothetical case being June 25) as the night of the alleged abuse instead of the second night.

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In either case the sleepover did not start on neither June 24th or June 25th. Melanie and Timothy actually meet on June 26th. This claim is backed up by Timothy's iCloud and social media posts which we will look over later. Let's go back into discussing Timothy's evidence.

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The first piece of evidence Timothy provided was the pic used in the Newsweek article with the caption: "Martinez on the night in question in 2015, allegedly playing the sexual game Heller says she took way too seriously." The night of the sleepover being June 25th, 2015.

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This is supposed to be a never seen before pic but you can find a reupload from February 2017. That's because Timothy liked to take Snapchat stories when she used to spend time with Melanie.

Note: The caption from the post has been edited.
Archive: web.archive.org/web/2023000000…

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The photo of Melanie in handcuffs was taken on May 6th, 2015. Then it was uploaded by Timothy via Snapchat and later saved online. Video proof of allsoulsineachpart's IG post confirming that the photo was uploaded on February 2017:

Source: allsoulsineachpart on Instagram

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Weeks after I uploaded my original thread someone was kind enough to reach out to me anonymously and let me know that they found an earlier archive of the same photo (December, 2015). We now have a 100% confirmation that Timothy uploaded the photo on her Snapchat stories.

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Source: marvelous.martinez on Instagram

Archive: web.archive.org/web/2023000000…

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The game Melanie and Timothy were playing is called "Valentine's Day Lover's Kit." Its description reads: "One wears the blindfold while the other rolls the dice to reveal the action of love on each turn." The game was not mentioned/referenced in Timothy's original letter

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Some people speculate that the part in Timothy's statement where Melanie kept asking for permission to touch Timothy's body parts such as her arms happened while they were playing the Lover's Kit game. This paragraph is just an observation and shouldn't be taken as a fact

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The game was bought in a thrift store but there isn't a solid answer on who had the idea of buying/playing the game since on the Newsweek article Timothy said it was Melanie's idea while on another interview Timothy said it was her own idea
Source: youtube.com/watch?v=tMiN0u…

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Photo comparisons between Timothy's camera roll & The Valentine's Day Lover's Kit Box Set made by a fan:

Archive: web.archive.org/web/2020061500…

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In her letter, she said that the incident happened while she was trying to sleep in bed and the game was not mentioned/referenced. In the article, she said that the incident happened while they were both awake playing the game and not while she was trying to sleep in bed.

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These two events are mutually exclusive: They can't happen at the same time. You can't pretend to be falling asleep in bed & ignoring someone's unsolicited sexual advances while simultaneously being awake & playing a two-player game you didn't mentioned in the first place

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The kit was an unnecessary detail that she added in her story & try to make it more believable but the result was the opposite. Her accusation went from "I was abused while I was pretending to be asleep in bed" to "I was abused while we were awake playing a 2-player kit."

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Liars add unnecessary details, which will eventually contradict each other. We can also confirm that the pic was taken on 05/06/2015 based on Melanie's hair color throughout social media posts around that time:
• Pic 1 posted on 04/28/2015.
• Pic 2 posted on 05/06/2015.

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Here are screenshots proving that the photo was posted on May 6th on Melanie's Instagram. It seems that the selfie pic was taken and posted during the early hours of May 6th and later that night, around 9pm GMT-7, Melanie & Timothy had their sleepover at Melanie's house.

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I also found a Melanie fan page on Twitter that also posted the May 6th, 2015 photo on their feed. Keep in mind that this person lives in Brazil and the time zones are different from The United States.

Source: MelanieMBrasil1 on Twitter.
Archive: web.archive.org/web/2023000000…

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Melanie getting a haircut on 05/10/2015. The video was posted by Lauren Ruth Ward. Lauren and Melanie have been friends since 2012. This was the moment when she dyed her hair from blue-black to silver-black.

Source: 1stamendnow on Twitter
Archive: archive.ph/https://x.com/…

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• Picture 1: Photo posted on May 12th, 2015.
• Picture 2: Photo posted on May 19th, 2015.
• Picture 3: Photo posted on May 21th, 2015.
• Picture 4: Photo posted on May 26th, 2015.

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• Melanie Martinez "Pity Party" Streaming Party: June 1st, 2015.

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• Picture 1: Photo posted on June 16th, 2015.
• Picture 2: Photo posted on June 20th, 2015.
• Picture 3: Photo posted on June 21st, 2015.

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All of this leads us to the morning of June 25th, 2015 when Melanie posted a picture in New York at 9:44am eastern standard time with the caption:

💘💘goin home to LA💘💘
With dis weave and a cookie on my head
🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪 🌴🌴🌴🌴🌴
Source: littlebodybigheart on Instagram

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Melanie was on tour at the time. The tour ended on June 21st, 2015 but she stayed in New York for a couple of days because she was born in NYC and probably visited some relatives after the tour ended. Here's a video of her performing at The Webster Hall on June 21st, 2015

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Melanie couldn't had stayed at a sleepover in Los Angeles, California on June 25th, 2015 because she was in New York on that exact same day. Remember, Timothy said that the sleepover lasted for two nights straight which is impossible

"I said no. For TWO NIGHTS STRAIGHT."

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Keep in mind that Timothy gave the dates of June 24th and June 25th during the Newsweek interview on December 5th 2017, the day after Melanie released her first statement. Melanie didn't acknowledge Timothy's dates as the correct dates in which their sleepover took place.

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Timothy & Melanie had several sleepovers over 2015. Melanie couldn't have possibly known which sleepover Timothy was referring to because Timothy, intentionally or not, combined different aspects/details from all their sleepovers and tried to present it as one sleepover.

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• Picture 1: First sleepover (May 6th, 2015).
• Picture 2: Second sleepover (June 26th, 2015).
• Picture 3: Third sleepover (October 19th, 2015).

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On December 8th, 2017 Timothy Heller did an Instagram live addressing the dates and other contradictions:

Source: timothyheller on Instagram

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Timothy Heller wants people to believe that these two photos were taken over the span of a day: Being the first pic taking place on June 24, 2015 (photo actually taken on May 6, 2015) and the second pic taking place on June 25, 2015 (photo actually taken on June 26, 2015)

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In a nutshell:

Timothy Heller's argument: These two pictures were taken over the span of one day.

vs.

Melanie Martinez's argument: These twelve pictures were taken over the span of one and a half months.

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Remember: The point of the collage is to show you that the pic posted on 05/06 was in fact taken on that day. While the 05/06 photo shows Melanie's natural hair, Melanie was wearing weaves on the pics taken on 06/25 & 06/25. Here's another pic of Melanie from 06/22/2015.

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"BMI partnered with the Alliance for Women in Media Foundation to present a special performance by Atlantic recording artist Melanie Martinez at the organization's 40th annual Gracies Awards Luncheon, recently held (6/22) at the NY Hilton Midtown."
web.archive.org/web/2015060100…

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To end this section: When Timothy was asked in an interview about Melanie's hair color during the sleepover she gave a contradictory response. This is most likely because people can have a better understanding of the timeline of events by knowing Melanie's real hair color

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The second and final piece of evidence Timothy gave was an iCloud video she posted on Twitter on Dec. 30th, 2017. We can confirm that the tweet is real thanks to a quoted reply. They were questioning if it's normal for iCloud to display the dates wrong on your camera roll

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Source 1:
x.com/dolans40u/stat…

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Source 2 [Broken Link]: x.com/timethyheller/…

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Quote: Idk if I'm gonna regret posting this but I thought this might clear some things up. I start this video out showing that my iCloud photo is clearly fucked up. The pictures of me in the green wig are clearly not from 2011. The picture from that night then says May 6.

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Timothy stated in the deleted tweet that she got the dates wrong because her iCloud was messed up but I will explain in a second why her iCloud was working just fine.
Note: I interpret the term "messed up" as Timothy claiming her iCloud was either outdated / had a glitch.

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For example, you can see in the video that she has a pic of a party saved on 06/24/2015. The party happened on June 21st. Since Timothy's iPhone did not took the pic, June 24th is the day that the pic was automatically saved by her iCloud.
Archive: web.archive.org/web/2023000000…

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Either the photo was sent to Timothy or she herself saved the pic by screenshotting the post on June 24th. Video proof of Rob Sheridan's Instagram post, confirming that the photo at the pool party was originally taken on June 21st, 2015:

Source: rob_sheridan on Instagram

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Posts made by timothyhellerisoverparty also backed-up the fact that Timothy's iCloud was working properly. They compare Timothy's iCloud video with her Instagram posts around that time. Pause to read.

Source: timothyhellerisoverparty on Instagram.
instagram.com/p/Bi-WGbYhe-t/

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Timothy stands by her statements, expressing that the sleepover happened between the dates of June 24, 2015 to June 25, 2015. Nevertheless, her iCloud video & other publications from social media prove otherwise.

Source: MelanieLBBHita on Twitter
web.archive.org/web/2023000000…

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The reason why the date of the last tweet says June 27th, 2015 is because the person lives in Italy and they posted the images once Timothy's Snapchat deleted them. Here's another pic of them from June 26th, 2015 which was later posted by Timothy online on June 28th, 2015

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Source [Broken Link]: x.com/timethyheller/…

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Note: The screenshot used in the previous tweet has been slightly edited due to color correction. Here's another pic from June 26 in which Timothy poses using Melanie's wig with the caption: "Hey guys Melanie Martinez here."

Source [Broken Link]: x.com/timethyheller/…

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We know that the other person in the mirror next to Timothy is Melanie because she has a tattoo of a blonde lady holding an apple juice box on her right shoulder.

Melanie Martinez Shares The Stories Behind Her Coolest Tattoos (November 26th, 2016)
youtube.com/watch?v=AsYsbj…

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The link of the original tweet is now broken but you can tell by the quoted replies that this tweet was in fact real. They also pointed out the inconsistency surrounding Melanie's hair which we discussed earlier.

Source: xmeowmeowwoofx on Twitter
web.archive.org/web/2023040100…

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Trigger Warning: Consumption of cannabis and date-rape drugs

The next portion of the thread will go into detail about the consumption of cannabis and the role of marijuana in sexual assault. Reader discretion is advised. I will not go into explicit details but stay safe.

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If you don't feel comfortable reading this part or you're in a bad mental health space I understand. You can skip to 143/300 which covers the next chapter: The timeline of events. It's not necessary for you to read this part if you don't want to, it's just to add context.

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Disclaimer: While there are several scientific studies with different methodologies used that either support or dismiss the idea that cannabis should be consider a date-rape drug, this section of the thread was not made with the intention of giving a solid answer to this.

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This section of the thread is to provide additional context as to how Timothy Heller and Melanie Martinez became familiarized with the medicinal drug and describe the role cannabis had during their friendship since both of them consume the drug for recreational purposes.

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On November 25th, 2015 andPOP did an interview with Melanie where they talk about her childhood and other topics. The original video has been deleted, but luckily someone reuploaded the interview on YouTube.

Source: happyaccidents3516 on YouTube.
youtube.com/watch?v=Xnt1Ok…

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When asked about the first time she smoked weed Melanie answered with the following: "I was with my friend in her boyfriend's room and she had like, a bong in his room. And I was like 'I don't know.' And I just smoked weed. I just tried it and I never had tried it before"

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Fans argue that Timothy was the friend Melanie was referring to during the interview because of these old Vine videos. Timothy was also wearing the Mickey hat that she wore when they went to Disney Land together. This is just an observation & shouldn't be taken as a fact.

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Regardless if Timothy was the one who introduced Melanie into cannabis or not, smoking weed was a common activity they did together. In the article, Timothy said that she & Melanie used to smoke all day during tour so it's unlikely that Timothy was pressured into smoking.

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Chapter Four: The General Timeline Of Events
Trigger Warning: Sexual Trauma
This portion of the thread will go into detail with the timeline of events and may not be suitable for all readers. Reader discretion is advised. I will not go into explicit details but stay safe.

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If you don't feel comfortable reading this section I understand. You can skip to 180/300 which will cover the next chapter: Addressing the incident of November 16th, 2017. It's not necessary for you to read this section if you don't want to, it's just to add more context.

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Timothy & Melanie became friends around early 2014, a couple of months before The Dollhouse Tour started where Timothy's former band "Dresses" played as the opening act. The tour went from June 4th, 2014 to June 24th, 2014.

Source 1 [Broken Link]: ask.fm/a/cc512871

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Source 2 [Broken Link]: x.com/timethyheller/…

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Melanie stopped being friends with Timothy in either late 2016 or early 2017 following the advice of her personal healer/psychic called Raven. They allegedly told Melanie that she needed to cut people out of her life and focus on her career
Source: x.com/MelanieLBBH/st…

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Archive: web.archive.org/web/2017050100…

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Due to conflicting reports, we don't have a specific date when they stopped being friends but the most likely explanation is that it happened in early 2017. You can see Timothy's Curious Cat confirming that they were still friends in 2017.
Archive: web.archive.org/web/2017050100…

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We will address some of the possibilities on when did the friendship ended with its implications and interpretations later so put a pin on that. But for now, we are going to rely on Timothy's posts from Jan. 2017 in which she stated that she was still friends with Melanie

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The reason why Timothy lied about stop being friends with Melanie in 2016 was not because of trauma but because by telling people she stopped being friends with Melanie for years and distancing herself from Melanie she attempted to make her statements seem more believable

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People will attack you for pointing this out. But please keep in mind that unlike most cases of abuse or violence, Melanie had no power over Timothy. There were no power imbalance/power dynamics in their relationship. Melanie had neither control or possession over Timothy

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Timothy & Melanie were on speaking terms up until September of 2017, just months before Timothy released her statements. I won't go into further detail out of respect but please remember that staying friends with people who abused you doesn't make you guilty by any means.

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And again please don't misinterpret it or twist it: This section is just the timeline of events. Timothy didn't lie about their friendship. She stated that they remained friends in 2015 which is true. But she also stated that the friendship ended in 2016 and that's false.

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Because, we can provide enough proof to show you that they actually stopped being friends in 2017. For illustration purposes only: The following examples are interactions they had over the years.

• On 08/14/2015 Timothy congratulated Melanie for the release of Cry Baby

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What Timothy was referring to in her IG post was this video of them singing together. We can tell by Melanie's dress and make-up that this video was likely filmed the day of June 26th, 2015 because that was the day Timothy and Melanie meet-up after The Cry Baby Tour ended

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Video proof of Timothy Heller's Instagram post from August 14th, 2015.

Source: fairycouture on Twitter

x.com/fairycouture/s…

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Archive: web.archive.org/web/2023000000…

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Here is the archive post when Timothy & Melanie meet-up. Remember that the date of the tweet says June 27th, 2015 because the author of the tweet lives in Italy and they posted the photo once Snapchat deleted it.

Source: MelanieLBBHita on Twitter

x.com/MelanieLBBHita…

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Archive: web.archive.org/web/2023040100…

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• On November 8th, 2015 Melanie and Timothy went to a toy museum together.

Source: littlebodybigheart on Instagram

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• On December 14th 2015, Timothy Heller uploaded a picture in Melanie's bathroom on Instagram with the following caption: "just a PSA to let y'all know that I'm currently the happiest and healthiest I've ever been!"

Source: sanriothxt on Twitter

x.com/sanriothxt/sta…

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Archive: web.archive.org/web/2023000000…

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The first pic is Timothy's Instagram feed on December, 2015 and the second pic are the respective descriptions for each post, proving that the description from the Melanie's bathroom selfie post is real.

Source: timothyheller on Instagram
Archive: web.archive.org/web/2015050100…

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• On April 2016 both Melanie and Timothy dressed up as the Cry Baby character during The Cry Baby Tour Part 2 and posted pics on their respective IG pages.

Note: The caption from Timothy's pic was later edited.

Source: littlebodybigheart and timothyheller on Instagram

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On Mar. 2017 Timothy answered some Curious Cat questions where she stated that she and Melanie were still on speaking terms.

Note: The last screenshot is from May 2015 not from Mar. 2017 but she was answering a Melanie-related question.

Archive: web.archive.org/web/2017060100…

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• On Sep. 2017, Timothy Heller liked Michael Keenan's repost of the "Mad Hatter" music video on Instagram.

Note: I stand by my previous statement I made that Melanie and Timothy were on speaking terms up until Sep. of 2017, based on the fact that Timothy liked his post.

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Timothy has never addressed why she liked Michael's post. And while some people argue that she accidentally liked the video or that the video was recommended to her, Instagram only recommends posts that you actively interact with.

Source (video): CryBabyFreed on Twitter

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• And on November 7th 2017, Timothy Heller tweeted the following: When u follow someone cuz they're in "The Industry" and u want them to hear ur song but instead they slide in your DMs with heyy :)

It is unclear if Timothy was referring to Melanie in this tweet or not.

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In real cases of abuse and violence, staying friends with people who hurt you doesn't make you guilty by any means. You're not alone. I'm going to leave the contact information of Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network down here:

Call 800.656.4673
rainn.org/contact-us

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988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: We can all help prevent suicide. The Lifeline provides free and confidential support for people in distress, prevention and crisis resources for you or your loved ones, and best practices for professionals in the USA.
988lifeline.org

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If you need help recovering from an addiction: The American Addiction Centers (AAC) is the leading provider for addiction treatment nationwide which specializes in evidence-based treatment & mental healthcare services 🤍

Call 866.834.2752 or visit
americanaddictioncenters.org

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Chapter Five: Addressing the incident of November 16th, 2017

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On 11/16/2017 Timothy posted two tweets. On the same day, Melanie allegedly tried to contact Timothy and her boyfriend which ended up with both of them blocking Melanie. Newsweek vouched for Timothy, claiming that they'd seen the alleged phone recordings and text messages

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Note: I have seen people using the terms "phone records" & "phone recordings" interchangeably. When I use the term "phone recordings" I'm referring to the call logs. Timothy claims that a phone call didn't took place: She accepted the call but hanged up immediately after.

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For those who don't know: Newsweek is not a reliable source. They have been embroiled in multiple controversies surrounding sexism, plagiarism and prioritizing sensationalism over quality journalism. Here is an excerpt from an article made by Jonathan Alter in Feb. 2018:

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"In the last five years [from 2013 to 2017], Newsweek produced some strong journalism and plenty of clickbait before becoming a painful embarrassment to anyone who toiled there in its golden age."

Source: The Death Of Newsweek by J. Alter
Archive: web.archive.org/web/2018070100…

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One of Timothy's in real life friends also corroborated her November 16th, 2017 story. This person is not a public figure and for safety purposes I'm going to refer to them as "Blue Shirt." Respect this person's privacy and don't try to contact them or reach out to them.

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We can confirm that this is a friend of Timothy because on 12/04/2017, Timothy liked and retweeted their tweet. The caption reads: "A lot of text, but here's my response to the Melanie Martinez story and my support to my friend."
Read in full before continuing the thread:

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According to Blue Shirt, they were present at a bar in Downtown LA along with Timothy, her boyfriend, and another friend of Timothy when Melanie allegedly tried to contact Timothy and her boyfriend with no avail. Timothy's November 16th tweet was posted around 10pm GMT-7.

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But we will come to learn that Blue Shirt isn't a reliable source. Just to be clear: I'm not saying that they're lying or that they're not being honest. I'm stating that their statements are solely their perspective / interpretation of the events that occurred that night.

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Just like Timothy's recounting of events during her sleepover with Melanie, Blue Shirt's recollection of events can't be perceived as one-hundred percent accurate. That's because a testimony coming explicitly from memory can be misconstrued (i.e., reconstructive memory).

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To give a better example: When asked who ended their friendship between Melanie & Timothy, Blue Shirt said that it was Timothy who ended the friendship, not Melanie. But in Timothy's original letter, Timothy said that Melanie was the one who ended the friendship, not her.

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Unlike Timothy, who purposely lied and gave the wrong date of the alleged assault while having presumed documented evidence on her possession which provided her with the real date of the sleepover, Blue Shirt gave a wrong answer because they were recalling it from memory.

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With "presumed documented evidence," I'm referring to possible text messages, social media posts and archives. If Timothy's claims that her iCloud was messed up were true (which it wasn't), she could had relied on other alternatives to give an accurate date of the events.

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But that doesn't mean Blue Shirt is purposely lying, it just means that they are not a reliable source. Neither Timothy, Timothy's boyfriend at the time, Blue Shirt or Newsweek had publicly showed or released the alleged phone recordings or the presumed texts Melanie sent

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This has led to people coming up with theories such as:

• The entire incident was a hoax, the phone call and texts never happened, and Blue Shirt is lying on her behalf.

• The phone call did in fact happened but Blue Shirt was never present at the time of the events.

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• Timothy lied and staged an incident to make it look like Melanie was trying to get in contact with her unbeknownst to Blue Shirt so she could later use their testimony as alibi.
• The event occurred but the reason why the phone recordings are private is still unknown.

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Note: Go rewatch the video from tweet 122/250 before continuing. Also, for clarity purposes, Melanie's personal healer and Melanie's psychic are the same person. The terms "healer" & "psychic" are used interchangeably throughout the interview and other social media posts.

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Timothy expressed on Newsweek that Melanie reached out to her on Nov. 16 as a result of Melanie dreaming about Timothy. But on the interview that she did on 12/09/2017, she stated that Melanie reached out to her as a result of reading the tweets that she posted on Nov. 16

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Melanie's psychic was also mentioned on the alleged text messages Timothy received on Oct 2016 after Melanie unfollowed Timothy on social media. The term "social media" is used in a broader sense on the 12/09/2017 interview, since no social media app was mentioned by name

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Due to conflicting reports it's unclear who reached out to whom as a result of Melanie unfollowing her on social media. Oddly enough, I found a video from a fan proving that Melanie was still following "Dresses The Band" (but not Timothy herself) on IG around Nov. of 2018

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Without the intention of sounding condescending, I also need to point out that the alleged text messages from October of 2016 (just like the text messages and the phone recordings from November 16th, 2017) have not been publicly released for reasons that are still unknown

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Timothy stated that after Melanie unfollowed her on social media and after having a long conversation with her via text messages that those were the main reasons why their friendship ended on October of 2016, regardless, there are opposing statements that contradict this.

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While Timothy stating that the last interaction she had with Melanie was on October 2016 aligns with Newsweek claims that the 11/16/2017 incident was the first time Timothy heard from Melanie in over a year, archives from Timothy's social media makes her claims unfounded.

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There are people trying to explain Timothy's posts in which she stated that they were still friends in 2017. For example, explaining that the friendship ended in 2016 and Timothy was still in a one-sided friendship with her. I advise everyone to form their own conclusions

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Returning to Timothy's recounting of events from 11/06/2017, Timothy claimed that Melanie tried to contact her 20 mins. after posting her tweets. This is unlikely because Melanie is not a social media person and she is known for taking months-long breaks from the internet

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To get my point across better: Melanie's last tweet before 11/16/2017 was on 09/28/2017 and Melanie's last liked post on twitter before 11/16/2017 was on 10/30/2017. Granted, twitter doesn't tell people when someone is active online so take this info with a grain of salt.

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And on December 2nd 2017, two days before posting her statement, Timothy tweeted the following: "I have enough friends and you are NOT ONE, AND NEVER ACTED LIKE ONE EITHER." It has been speculated that this tweet was referring to Melanie.

Archive: web.archive.org/web/2017090100…

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All of these explanations are purely speculations and should not be taken as a fact. Unfortunately, we don't have a definite answer as to what really happened on the night of 11/16/2017. The only thing we can do is make a good judgement and don't rely on people's biases.

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I want to end this chapter by highlighting the importance of media literacy: While addressing topics like this it is essential to be a conscientious person and be critical with the media/content we consume. The next tweet are the sources that I used on my previous tweets.

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Note: Twitter limits tweets that have broken links and tweets that include more than one URL so I'm going to upload a photo of all the sources missing instead of typing every single one individually. It takes less than a minute to type each URL to prove their authenticity

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Chapter Six: Addressing some misconceptions and rumors people have regarding Melanie Martinez and Timothy Heller over the years

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Misconception #1: "Timothy Heller had no initial support when she came out with her statement."

The #MelanieMartinezIsOverParty was trending worldwide at #1 with over 1.2 million tweets with people burning Melanie's merchandise and sending her death threats/rape threats.

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They also doxxed her old home address and were sending letters to her record label harassing them to end her contract. Timothy's original statement had almost 200K likes (screenshots found via Wayback Machine), so the argument that Timothy had no initial support is a lie.

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Misconception #2: "No news media covered the allegations when they surfaced."

Multiple news media covered the topic back in 2017 such as CNN and CBS. Just to give a quick example, you can watch a Billboard video addressing the subject matter here:
youtu.be/ZH6EVNZA8e0

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Misconception #3: "Melanie deleted her original statement so that counts as an admission of guilt / confession."

Melanie had a bot which deletes all of her tweets one year later after being posted. Circleboom is a Twitter bot for example.
Archive: web.archive.org/web/2023100100…

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Misconception #4: "Melanie took advantage of Timothy because of her age."

Timothy is older than Melanie. Timothy was born on August 17th, 1992 (32 years old) and Melanie was born on April 28th, 1995 (30 years old). They met when Timothy was 22 and Melanie was 20 in 2014.

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Misconception #5: "Melanie was never supportive of Timothy's career."

Melanie was always supportive with Timothy's career. Timothy's former band "Dresses" were the opening act for Melanie during The Dollhouse Tour back in 2014 along with Mike Squillante (wearemovienight)

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Misconception #6: "Melanie is still guilty under the eyes of the law."

The California Court System (2023) states: "Everyone accused of a crime is legally presumed to be innocent until they are convicted." Since the case never went to trial, both of them remain innocent.

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Misconception #7: "Timothy copied her story from a sexual assault survivor."

Timothy denied the rumors on a TikTok video that you can find on Misconception #20. Here's the story which was posted on Jan. of 2013. Be cautious and be safe 🧡
Archive: web.archive.org/web/2013080100…

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Misconception #8: "Miles wasn't aware about what happened between Melanie & Timothy."

Miles was Melanie's boyfriend back then. Miles, Melanie, Timothy & Timothy's ex-boyfriend used to be friends. Miles knew beforehand that Melanie was attracted to/interested in Timothy.

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Timothy was aware that Miles knew that Melanie had feelings for her. Both Melanie & Timothy had prior dialogues about having sex before engaging in a sexual activity together, this could very well indicate that their encounter during the sleepover was planned/consensual.

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She changes her answer after noticing that her remark would've made people realized that she & Melanie had already talked about having sex prior to their sleepover. The only way for Timothy to know that Miles wouldn't care about it is if Miles had become aware beforehand.

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Misconception #9: "Globelamp, who was former friends with Timothy, came forward and exposed Timothy as a liar."
On September of 2020 Elizabeth Gomez posted a series of stories on her IG page denouncing Timothy. But take her statements with a grain of salt. Pause to read.

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Part two of Globelamp Instagram stories. Pause to read.

Source: Globelamp on Instagram

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She has also publicly denounced Timothy Heller on Twitter. But I personally believe these statements were not made to spread awareness, but were made in an attempt to save her reputation / public image.

Source: reinadelpalmar9 on Twitter
Archive: web.archive.org/web/2023060100…

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Don't get me wrong: Globelamp is a bad person. But don't send hate to her. People use the argument that because Globelamp is a bad person she can't be trusted, ignoring the fact that Timothy purposely befriended someone so they could talk bad about Melanie on her behalf.

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Misconception #10: "Timothy compared being sexually assaulted to being stabbed."

Timothy's friend Eve was the one who made the insensitive comments, not Timothy. They stopped being friends after it was revealed that Eve was in a groupchat being inappropriate with minors.

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Proof of Eve sending scantily clad pictures of herself to minors. Some sources state that she was born on 1995 so that would make her around 22-23 years old when this happened.

Parts 1 to 7.

Source: timothyhelleriscancelled on Instagram
Archive: web.archive.org/web/2023000000…

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Misconception #11: "Melanie Martinez is rude to her fans."

Melanie has never been rude or mean to her fans. She has always been vocal about how much she appreciates the love she receives from her supporters. Here is a snippet from a 2019 interview.

Source: BUILD Series

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Her older songs like A Million Men and Rough Love (both made in 2013) were written to show empathy and raise awareness about sexual abuse. In Melanie's words: "It's important to practice love & empathy, as well as to do inner work in order for your outer self to blossom."

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Melanie has also donated money to The Trevor Project and during The K-12 Tour she partnered with Plus1 to provide mental health care and support to the LGBTQ+ youth. For each ticket that the tour sold, the proceeds were donated to War Child USA to help communities in need

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The Trevor Project provides 24/7 crisis support services to LGBTQ+ young people. We have initiatives happening in all 50 states to change hearts, minds and laws in support of young LGBTQ+ lives.
Text "START" to 678.678, call 1.866.488.7386 or visit
thetrevorproject.org

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PLUS1 is a registered nonprofit and the trusted partner to leading cultural industry artists, events and brands in unlocking funding and building visibility for high-impact social and environmental justice initiatives.
Partnering with us is simple:
plus1.org/whatwedo

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Trigger Warning: CSAM
Misconception #12: "Melanie posted CSAM on her old Tumblr."
What people are referring to was when she answered a fan question on Tumblr. The fan asked which was her favorite episode of iCarly and she answered it with an edited gif of Jennette McCurdy

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Out of respect of Jennette McCurdy I'm not going to post the edited gif. But rest assured, it wasn't CSAM. The edited gif came from a season 3 episode called "iWas a Pageant Girl." As you can see the scene which the edited gif originated from is in no way sexual in nature

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"iWas a Pageant Girl" is Melanie's favorite episode of iCarly because it reminds her of her childhood when she used to play as a fashion model. It is important to point out that Melanie herself didn't make the gif as it was suggested to her by Tumblr Gifs Search Results.

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The most likely explanation is that Melanie wanted a gif from that episode, found a gif who was recommended to her by Tumblr, didn't thought much of it & ended up using it. Not justifying what she did but people's reactions got blown way out of proportion for using a gif.

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Misconception #13: "Melanie Martinez fetishizes babies and romanticizes mental illnesses."

The Album Cry Baby is a metaphorical and exaggerated representation of a character named Cry Baby, who is loosely based / inspired on Melanie's personal experiences and upbringing

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If you want to learn more about it, I'm going to leave a threadreaderapp archive which goes into further detail:

Explaining Melanie Martinez's Cry Baby era and discussing rumors/misconceptions surrounding it for people to stop misinterpreting it:
web.archive.org/web/2023000000…

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Misconception #14: Explaining the dice-rolling situation
Timothy previously stated that she was abused by Melanie while playing a Valentine's Day Kit together. But there's one small detail that not a lot of people seemed to had pointed out: The Kit was a dice-rolling game

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The following note is purely speculation & it shouldn't be taken as a fact. This is Blank's old input regarding the dice-rolling situation as they are indecisive as to how interpret Timothy's statements that she gave addressing the Valentine's game while being interviewed

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Misconception #15: "Edwin Costa didn't know who Timothy was before he made his video series."

Edwin & Timothy already knew each other. He didn't have any problem making a video series attacking Melanie & then deleting comments that were calling him out for omitting info.

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Misconception #16: "Teacher's Pet is about Adam Levine"
In The October 2019 Issue of Alternative Press, Melanie stated that Teacher's Pet was based on her childhood experiences of seeing teachers being arrested for being inappropriate & grooming their students on the news

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"I remember as a kid when a teacher would get reported with a student, the news would portray it as a teacher-student affair instead of calling it what it is, which is abuse and really just that teacher exerting the power of their age over a child"
archive.ph/63ijz

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Misconception #17: "Melanie Martinez is into DDLG (Daddy Dom/Little Girl) & ABDL (Adult Baby Diaper Lover)."

Melanie denied the rumors on a January 2021 Instagram Q&A. She's also an introvert, has an INFJ Personality Type & doesn't like her feet being touched / massaged.

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Misconception #18: "Melanie Martinez is a satanist."
"False & I don't put labels on my belief system. I believe God is not an entity but an energy that keeps us connected with every being in the universe. I work with herbs, pray with candles, read tarot, and meditate. 🧚‍♀️"

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Misconception #19: "Melanie scammed her fans with an AI Meet & Greet."
The package said "Access to the Interactive Portals Photo Experience." I know that the word interactive is a buzzword for AI but it was just a video of Melanie meeting people that she filmed beforehand

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Misconception #20: "This thread is full of victim-blaming."

The act of recollecting data is not victim-blaming. Disproving presented evidence is not victim-blaming. Pointing out that an alleged victim of sexual assault purposely falsified evidence is not victim-blaming.

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I caught on that the fandom is always going to be perceived as wrong no matter the context: When we provide no evidence we were being rape apologists, when we provide enough evidence we are being insensitive, but if we provide too much evidence we are also victim-blaming.

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When presenting evidence in any case it is vital to decide how important/believable your evidence is. The more relevant/valuable your evidence is, it will have more influence on the people you want to convince. If your evidence has no weight then people can't rely on it.

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Chapter Seven: Explaining The Meaning Behind Piggyback And Why It's Not A Diss Track

"Piggyback" is Melanie's third & final statement regarding the accusations to this day. Melanie's way to cope is through her music & her art so she wrote a song as a means of expression.

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I could write an analysis of the song but its purpose is self-explanatory & its message is crystal clear: Piggyback is Melanie's life story. The song is Melanie finally taking a stand against every single person who took advantage of her trust for their own personal gain.

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If Melanie's true motives were to profit off the situation she would have released the song across all of her streaming platforms. Instead, the song was only officially released on SoundCloud where the site has the option to stop monetization of any song at any given time

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Atlantic isn't credited on SoundCloud, meaning that her label didn't provide her any of the equipments to make that song. Melanie produced it on her own. There's also speculation that Melanie's healer Raven helped her write it but I couldn't find any proof for that claim.

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Melanie did not insult anybody. The harshest term she used were the words "fake people," "plastic people" and "liars." Compare it to a real diss track like “Ms. Whitman” by Bhad Bhabie where she used terms like "bitch," "whore" and "stanky pussy."
youtube.com/watch?v=yo7_px…

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On Piggyback, Melanie describes someone as their “one best friend.” This person is Jacqueline "Jackie" Molina. Jackie and Melanie have been friends since they were 5 years old in kindergarten and they are still friends to this day. Timothy was never Melanie's best friend.

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What Timothy & Maddie like to do is to tell everyone that Melanie has no real friends to convince people that Melanie is possessive/abusive. Here you have old tweets from Maddie claiming that Melanie has no real friends and people only surround with her for monetary gain.

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These comments come from a place of anger rather than out of concern. You can be friends with your workmates while maintaining a healthy relationship with them. If Jackie didn't want/didn't like the job that is solely her decision to make.
Archive:
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What Maddie Carina is trying to do is convince people that being a bad friend or a bad person is synonym with being a sexual abuser, which is a false analogy fallacy (the assumption that two things share multiple similarities simply because they have one thing in common).

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You can find Jackie's name on the Cry Baby Credits. Neither Timothy or Maddie was mentioned in the acknowledgements. Another detail is that in the day "Piggyback" was released Jackie uploaded via Instagram stories an old picture of her with Melanie, showing her support ❤️

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Chapter Eight (260/300): The Maddie Carina Allegations
Around the time Timothy posting her letter, Maddie also shared her alleged story of abuse. She claims that Melanie coerced her into having a sexual encounter during an unspecified party. But be wary of her statements.

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Timothy and Maddie have been friends for years before 2017. Considering "Blue Shirt" giving wrong statements in the past, Globelamp admitting that she has lied and Eve's lack of humanity to be sexting minors, Timothy's friends (including Maddie), are not reliable sources.

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I can make the same argument that Maddie & Timothy keep accusing Melanie of being an abuser with no evidence or testimonies. And people just keep taking their words for granted without doing any research. But my issues regarding Maddie's accusations go beyond these points

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I have a problem with them using the terms "hooking up" & "sleeping together" as synonyms for "sexual abuse" & they never correcting themselves. They should know the difference between those terms & how to use them properly considering that they're SA survivors advocates.

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It's also not common to be submissive to someone who's physically weaker, highly shorter & biologically younger than you, especially if that person isn't a figure of power. It's haunting that Timothy & Maddie allegedly decided to respond passively instead of authoritarian

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But the most infuriating part is Maddie messaging Edwin Costa (a youtuber who is friends with Timothy) to accuse Melanie of flying people outside the US border so Melanie could have sex with them. There's no other way to say it: Maddie accused Melanie of human trafficking

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The conversation between them was never meant to be public. The reason why we know about this is because Edwin was hacked. Maddie was comfortable enough to falsely accuse Melanie of human trafficking in private was because she couldn't have foreseen the texts being leaked

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Falsely accusing someone you hate of human trafficking because you can't substantiate your false allegations of abuse is not ok. Disappearing from social media when people started to call you out for it is not ok. Not taking accountability for your own actions is not ok.

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Maddie claims that Melanie has more victims but it has been over six years and no one has ever come forward. Not a single person claiming to had been human trafficked & abused by Melanie. There are no victims because it's all a lie. Maddie lied. I can't stress this enough

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There's no justification for falsely accusing Melanie of human trafficking. If Melanie was truly a human trafficker, Maddie should've reported her immediately instead of wasting people's time & messaging youtubers about it. Maddie & Edwin should be ashamed of themselves.

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Chapter Nine
You may be asking yourself: Why does Timothy keep insisting that she's telling the truth when she isn't? As much as I would like to give my opinion I'm confident that this thread speaks for itself. Here are the reasons of people that were personally affected:

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On Piggyback, Melanie gives two reasons as to why Timothy lied: As a ruse to get famous & as retaliation because Timothy considers her a bad person & a bad friend. Globelamp gave another reason as to why Timothy lied, that being Timothy was bitter about Melanie's success.

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Timothy has stated how much she wants to be left alone and Cry Babies/Earthlings are the ones who keep bringing up the accusations. Yet every time Melanie has a new project, or Melanie begins to get recognition for her work, she fusses over to ruin it.

TikTok: Jan. 2020

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Trigger warning: Online bullying & suicide

Despite calling herself a mental health advocate, Timothy Heller has no problem at all when her supporters tell Cry Babies/Earthlings they should off themselves for supporting Melanie Martinez.

Archive: web.archive.org/web/2023060100…

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"There'll never be a time where I support Timothy Heller because of her response to bullying and her associating with a person who told me to go dℹ️e after I told her to stop engaging with their posts."
Source 1: BringItOnBriana (Twitter)
Source 2: threadreaderapp.com/thread/9781771…

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Timothy is prone to anger as she has been called out in the past for fighting with minors at the age of 22 back in Nov. 2014. She was defending Abigail Breslin after the release of her song You Suck which faced backlash for attacking Michael Clifford after their break up.

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Timothy has also made some insensitive comments directed to a family member of Melanie who has a neurological and developmental condition. The following screenshots were provided by Globelamp around Sep. 2020. They're censored to protect the identity of her family member.

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People like to link this article to remind everyone that Melanie has SA accusations. But they always fail to mention that the article was made by Timothy & Maddie themselves, along with Alysia Stevenson who facilitated them to publish it.

Archive: web.archive.org/web/2020100100…

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Just like Maddie, Timothy befriended another journalist to write another biased article against Melanie. They have a known pattern of behavior of befriending people so they can slander Melanie on her behalf.

Source: Sandra Song for Nylon
Archive: web.archive.org/web/2018070100…

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In June 2020, "Play Date" went viral on Tik Tok. Melanie originally planned do make a "Play Date Remix" featuring 100 Gecs. Then unsurprisingly, Timothy followed the band members on Instagram & contacted them to cancel the collaboration.

Archive: web.archive.org/web/2023080100…

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Unless you really want be to believe that Timothy Heller coincidentally followed Dylan Marshall Brady and Laura Les hours before they were set to release a collaboration with Melanie and the song just got cancelled without any explanation

Archive: web.archive.org/web/2020040100…

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On Oct. 2020, Timothy's private Instagram page @/brainynoworky got leaked. The screenshots were taken using a Samsung Galaxy Product, which explains why the three dots from the Instagram posts are shown vertically instead of horizontally.

Archive: web.archive.org/web/2023080100…

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On December 2022, popular twitter account jimmyoutsold stated that Timothy reached out to him to talk about her alleged abuse back in 2017. He also stated that going viral could had been one of the main reasons why she posted her letter.

Archive: web.archive.org/web/2023000000…

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Keep in mind that Jimmy was 14 when Timothy (being 25 at the time) reached out to him to talk about her alleged abuse in great detail which is extremely inappropriate. Adults shouldn't be talking about sexual abuse to minors unless it's a qualified teacher or an educator.

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And most recently an account called @/heardsstan brought up the allegations again when Melanie released her third studio album PORTALS. They got suspended for hateful conduct & getting into fights with people for engagement.

Tweet 1 [Broken Link]:
x.com/heardsstan/sta…

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You cannot be an advocate for sexual assault survivors and make these types of comments. It's appalling and it shows a lack of humanity. The group of people behind these accounts have always hated Melanie since the beginning.
Tweet 2 [Broken Link]: x.com/heardsstan/sta…

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You can find tweets from them all the way back to 2016 attacking Melanie, a complete year before the accusations surfaced. The context of these conversations has become lost over time but this argument is just to show you that these people have known each other for years.

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Ask yourself: Why are these people coming after Melanie when she was not even accused at the time? Maybe because they always hated her and now they are just using the accusations as an excuse to justify their hatred/hostility towards her.

Archive: web.archive.org/web/2023000000…

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These people never cared about Timothy Heller. They only used this situation to ruin Melanie Martinez's career, just like they have been doing for the last eight years. People who don't treat the subject of sexual assault with all its seriousness don't deserve a platform.

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Timothy will never admit that she lied, but we don't need a confession to know that she's a liar. When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time. People know themselves much better than you do. Stop expecting them to be something other than who they are.

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Chapter Ten: Conclusion
I made this thread entirely by myself. I didn’t like remaking this thread. I felt like a snake eating their own tail. This is the last time that I’m going to update it, which is a victory in the eyes of the people who keep trying to hack my account

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You don't need to lie to be believed. You don't need to film yourself pretending to be sad & posting it online to be believed. You don't need to falsely accuse your alleged abuser of them condoning pedophilia & them being a pedophile to be believed
archive.ph/FERCj

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Be mindful of cognitive dissonance, investigate & don't be ignorant when people bring eyebrow-raising behavior coming from the accusers. Replying to people's concerns by calling them rape apologists without answering their questions shows a lack of emotional intelligence.

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There are more topics that I could add like the fake AI audio of Melanie talking about Piggyback or people accusing Timothy of promoting her music at the high of the controversy but this post is long enough. A single lie found is enough to create doubt in every truth said

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If you have the time you can also read the 250 tweets thread & see how my perspective has changed over the years. I think both threads complement each other very well. Don't use this thread as in instrument to attack anyone. Be the bigger person & don't fight with people.

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Postscript 1: Trigger warning for drug shaming
I've seen people using Timothy's past history with drugs and prescription medicines to demean her / degrade her. I condemn this behavior. Drug shaming makes it harder for addicts to seek the help they need so be kind to them.

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Postscript 2: The Frankie situation
Frankie was a Melanie fan and an in real life friend of Timothy years before 2017. After Timothy came out with her alleged story of abuse, she blocked both Frankie and her mom. Frankie's mom has stated that they are not friends anymore.

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The retelling of the Timothy and Frankie situation made by timothyhelleriscancelled.

Parts 1 to 8. Pause to read.

Source: timothyhelleriscancelled on Instagram.

Archive: web.archive.org/web/2023000000…

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Postscript 3: Here are other examples of Timothy's iCloud working fine. Lastly, I don't believe Timothy & Maddie. Their allegations aren't a pattern of behavior coming from Melanie because the accusations come from the same friend group who keep contradicting themselves.

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The same friend group who harassed Melanie's friend Jackie (tweet 256), attacked a family member of Melanie who is not a public figure (tweet 276) & demanded to be left alone while simultaneously befriending people so they can slander Melanie on their behalf (tweet 278).

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Believing in someone isn't an obligation, it's a choice and I choose to believe in Melanie. Thank you for reading. Tweets 177-178-179-231-232-300 contain the info for RAINN, The 988, The American Addiction Centers, The Trevor Project, Plus1, Freedom Network USA & Our Wave

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Correction 01: The word “premeditated” was accidentally autocorrected to “predetermined.”

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Correction 02: Melanie was wearing weaves on the pics taken on 06/25 & 06/26.

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Correction 03: Chapter Four begins at tweet 150/300, not on tweet 143/300.

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Correction 04: The video that contained the clip from the 12/09/2017 interview can be found on tweet 182/300, not on tweet 122/250.

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Correction 05: The correct date is 11/16/2017, not 11/06/2017.

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Correction 06: The TikTok video can be found on Chapter Ten (tweet 272/300), not on Misconception #20 (tweet 247/300).

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Correction 07: Tweet 294 is 294/300, not 294/400.

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Correction 08: The word “authoritative” was accidentally autocorrected to “authoritarian.”

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Correction 09: Melanie's response (11:37PM UTC) was posted roughly nine hours later after Timothy's post (2:56PM UTC).

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Correction 10: Melanie posted the New York photo at 5:44AM Eastern Standard Time (9:44AM UTC).

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