๐งต๐ผ ๐๐ค๐ข๐ฅ๐ง๐๐๐๐ฃ๐จ๐๐ซ๐ ๐๐๐จ๐๐ช๐จ๐จ๐๐ค๐ฃ ๐ค๐ ๐ ๐๐๐ข๐ ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐จ ๐ง๐๐๐๐ง๐๐๐ฃ๐ ๐๐ค๐โ๐จ...

Bahr Umar@ShafiEastAsian
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Nov 15, 2025
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๐งต๐ผ ๐๐ค๐ข๐ฅ๐ง๐๐๐๐ฃ๐จ๐๐ซ๐ ๐๐๐จ๐๐ช๐จ๐จ๐๐ค๐ฃ ๐ค๐ ๐
๐๐๐ข๐ ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐จ ๐ง๐๐๐๐ง๐๐๐ฃ๐ ๐๐ค๐โ๐จ ๐ฅ๐๐ฎ๐จ๐๐๐๐ก ๐ฅ๐ง๐๐จ๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐๐ฃ ๐๐ก๐ก ๐ฅ๐ก๐๐๐๐จ ๐๐ฉ ๐ค๐ฃ๐๐.
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The Jahmiyyaโs belief regarding Allahโs omnipresence differs sharply from that of the Salaf. While the Salaf would affirm that Allah is โabove the Throne,โ in reality, they were not suggesting that He is limited to a single location in the way created beings.
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In contrast, the Jahmiyya held that Allahโs essence is physically present in every place above the Throne, below it, and throughout all places simultaneously as noted in works, allegedly attributed to Imam Ahmad, such as Radd โala al-Jahmiyya.
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Many narrations report the Jahmis stating things like: โHe has no place,โ โHeโs not connected or separated,โ and โHe has no known place.โ At first glance, one might think this aligns with the Ashโari position, which says that Allah has no place. However, this is not the case.
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The Jahmiyya intended these statements to mean that Allah does not occupy a โknown placeโ in the sense that created beings do.
> He is not โconnectedโ in the sense of being touching to something else
> nor โseparateโ in the sense of being located apart from something.
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> He is not โconnectedโ in the sense of being touching to something else
> nor โseparateโ in the sense of being located apart from something.
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Rather, His essence is spread throughout all places.
To say that Allah existed without a place at all as some might assume from these statements would be inaccurate.
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To say that Allah existed without a place at all as some might assume from these statements would be inaccurate.
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Imagine a drop of ink being dropped into a glass of water:
> The ink spreads throughout the water. Every part of the water contains ink.
> No single spot can be pointed to as โthe inkโs placeโโit is everywhere in the water.
> The ink spreads throughout the water. Every part of the water contains ink.
> No single spot can be pointed to as โthe inkโs placeโโit is everywhere in the water.
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>The ink is not โconnectedโ to one part of the water in the sense of being stuck somewhere.
> The ink is not โseparateโ from any part of the waterโitโs in every drop.
In this analogy, u would understand the idea of a being everywhere which denies separation and connection.
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> The ink is not โseparateโ from any part of the waterโitโs in every drop.
In this analogy, u would understand the idea of a being everywhere which denies separation and connection.
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When the Salaf Saliheen said that Allah is above the Throne in a real sense, they did not mean that He is located somewhere apart from creation. Taking it that way would imply that the Salaf were conceding to the Jahmis bogus accussation.
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Rather, the Salaf meant that Allah is outside the universe, not bound by space or time, which only apply within the universe. Claiming, as the Jahmis do, that โthere is no Lord above the Throneโ effectively denies Allahโs ability to transcend the universe (space and time).
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> For the Salaf: Allahโs being โseparateโ = He is not bound by space or time; He transcends creation.
> For the Jahmis: โSeparatedโ = limited to one location
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> For the Jahmis: โSeparatedโ = limited to one location
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The Salaf actually refutes the Jahmis, because true separation canโt be grasp in terms of location, as the Jahmites assume by trying to confine God to a specific place or He is present everywhere. True separation means that Allah transcends all spatial dimensions.
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