๐Ÿงต๐˜ผ ๐™˜๐™ค๐™ข๐™ฅ๐™ง๐™š๐™๐™š๐™ฃ๐™จ๐™ž๐™ซ๐™š ๐™™๐™ž๐™จ๐™˜๐™ช๐™จ๐™จ๐™ž๐™ค๐™ฃ ๐™ค๐™› ๐™…๐™–๐™๐™ข๐™ž ๐™—๐™š๐™ก๐™ž๐™š๐™›๐™จ ๐™ง๐™š๐™œ๐™–๐™ง๐™™๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™œ ๐™‚๐™ค๐™™โ€™๐™จ...

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๐Ÿงต๐˜ผ ๐™˜๐™ค๐™ข๐™ฅ๐™ง๐™š๐™๐™š๐™ฃ๐™จ๐™ž๐™ซ๐™š ๐™™๐™ž๐™จ๐™˜๐™ช๐™จ๐™จ๐™ž๐™ค๐™ฃ ๐™ค๐™› ๐™…๐™–๐™๐™ข๐™ž ๐™—๐™š๐™ก๐™ž๐™š๐™›๐™จ ๐™ง๐™š๐™œ๐™–๐™ง๐™™๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™œ ๐™‚๐™ค๐™™โ€™๐™จ ๐™ฅ๐™๐™ฎ๐™จ๐™ž๐™˜๐™–๐™ก ๐™ฅ๐™ง๐™š๐™จ๐™š๐™ฃ๐™˜๐™š ๐™ž๐™ฃ ๐™–๐™ก๐™ก ๐™ฅ๐™ก๐™–๐™˜๐™š๐™จ ๐™–๐™ฉ ๐™ค๐™ฃ๐™˜๐™š.

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The Jahmiyyaโ€™s belief regarding Allahโ€™s omnipresence differs sharply from that of the Salaf. While the Salaf would affirm that Allah is โ€œabove the Throne,โ€ in reality, they were not suggesting that He is limited to a single location in the way created beings.

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In contrast, the Jahmiyya held that Allahโ€™s essence is physically present in every place above the Throne, below it, and throughout all places simultaneously as noted in works, allegedly attributed to Imam Ahmad, such as Radd โ€˜ala al-Jahmiyya.

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Many narrations report the Jahmis stating things like: โ€œHe has no place,โ€ โ€œHeโ€™s not connected or separated,โ€ and โ€œHe has no known place.โ€ At first glance, one might think this aligns with the Ashโ€˜ari position, which says that Allah has no place. However, this is not the case.

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The Jahmiyya intended these statements to mean that Allah does not occupy a โ€œknown placeโ€ in the sense that created beings do.
> He is not โ€œconnectedโ€ in the sense of being touching to something else
> nor โ€œseparateโ€ in the sense of being located apart from something.

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Rather, His essence is spread throughout all places.
To say that Allah existed without a place at all as some might assume from these statements would be inaccurate.

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Imagine a drop of ink being dropped into a glass of water:
> The ink spreads throughout the water. Every part of the water contains ink.
> No single spot can be pointed to as โ€œthe inkโ€™s placeโ€โ€”it is everywhere in the water.
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>The ink is not โ€œconnectedโ€ to one part of the water in the sense of being stuck somewhere.

> The ink is not โ€œseparateโ€ from any part of the waterโ€”itโ€™s in every drop.

In this analogy, u would understand the idea of a being everywhere which denies separation and connection.

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When the Salaf Saliheen said that Allah is above the Throne in a real sense, they did not mean that He is located somewhere apart from creation. Taking it that way would imply that the Salaf were conceding to the Jahmis bogus accussation.

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Rather, the Salaf meant that Allah is outside the universe, not bound by space or time, which only apply within the universe. Claiming, as the Jahmis do, that โ€œthere is no Lord above the Throneโ€ effectively denies Allahโ€™s ability to transcend the universe (space and time).

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> For the Salaf: Allahโ€™s being โ€œseparateโ€ = He is not bound by space or time; He transcends creation.

> For the Jahmis: โ€œSeparatedโ€ = limited to one location

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The Salaf actually refutes the Jahmis, because true separation canโ€™t be grasp in terms of location, as the Jahmites assume by trying to confine God to a specific place or He is present everywhere. True separation means that Allah transcends all spatial dimensions.

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