This thread is more personal than most of the things I share here,...

I want to explain why I dislike him so much and how we got here.
This is a personal story over several years so it’ll take a bit of time.
I’m sure there are good points among them, where he is right and I’m wrong. But some of his big claims against my work are false.
It was shared tens of thousands of times. (theguardian.com/commentisfree/… ).
If you are interested in poverty, it is very much worth reading.
noahpinion.substack.com/p/against-hick…
In The Guardian he wrote that my work “takes the violence of colonisation and repackages it as a happy story of progress.”
The large improvements in health and poverty happened once the oppression of the former colonies *ended*.
I very much agree with him on this.
On @OurWorldInData we've done this already for many years and I’ve often argued for it. Most recently here: ourworldindata.org/higher-poverty…
All existing poverty data has problems – the historical data and the poverty data for the present as well.
That’s the very reason I do research on this!
If I’d believe the existing data was perfect, I would not spend much of my energy criticizing existing data and trying to do better.
It is not – as Hickel claimed – “completely wrong”.
It compares estimates from different sources and shows that they differ, but also shows that they agree that poverty has declined.
x.com/MaxCRoser/stat…
The world is extremely unequal and the huge majority of the world is very poor.
ourworldindata.org/much-better-aw…
I was feeling awful for months and I had no idea how I could possibly speak about how I felt in public.
I just did not know what to do when one of the world’s largest newspapers publishes an article saying that I couldn’t be more wrong and that my work is “not science, but social media” as Hickel claimed.
Many believed that Hickel was right and followed his lead.
Hickel writes in this same article “In other words, Roser’s graph illustrates a story of coerced proletarianisation. It is not at all clear that this represents an improvement in people’s lives.”
And those who have been at the receiving end of an Internet mob know what this means.
What kind of person asks a colleague for help and once that colleague helps out takes that work to attack that same colleague who helped him?
But it is still online and the URL also still shows the original title: jasonhickel.org/blog/2018/12/1…
As I said, in this case a colleague helped to do this work, but more broadly everyone feels bad if the work that we put so much time and energy into gets trashed in The Guardian or elsewhere.
Of course historians know that they have to take things like subsistence farming into account when they study our history. And they do.
And it is not exactly hard to find out that historians know this, it’s front and center in those studies, just because it is so important.
I understand that his followers do this. They trust that he is right and that I am wrong.
It sucks so much to spend your days getting attacked for work that is not wrong and then to explain again and again where the attacker is wrong.
I just can’t stand his double-faced manner of how he speaks to me in private and how he speaks about me in public.
Most people don’t know or don’t care about my work, some people find it a bit useful, but only one person does this kind of thing every few months.
I’m sorry if I was rude to you.
I went into these conversations with him with good intentions, but for the reasons above (and more) I just have enough.
I have no respect at all for him anymore. It doesn’t feel nice to say this, but it is how I feel.
I know that we’ll be here again in a few months. He will again make his false claims and his readers will trust him and I’ll again sit here reading through a barrage of attacks from his readers.
I very much love my work – even if all of this comes with a side dish of Hickel.
I love the @OurWorldinData team and I'm very much looking forward to what is ahead for us:
(ourworldindata.org/about)
Thank you for reading.
I’ve read through all your replies (last night) and several good questions came up. I want to add three points:
As I mentioned, I did write an article in response which I published on @OurWorldInData (ourworldindata.org/extreme-histor…).
The ‘Global Development’ editor got back and said she is not responsible and told me that those at the ‘Comment section’ are, but the people there did not get back to me.
Another aspect to the poverty numbers that is worth mentioning, because Hickel mentions this in his Guardian piece and elsewhere, is the number (rather than share) of people in poverty.
In his work he relies on a poverty line of $7.40 (adjusted for price differences across countries) and he calls this the ‘ethical poverty line.’
I think a person who lives on twice as much is still poor and I certainly find it unethical to name such a low poverty line ‘ethical’.]
You find the latest data here iresearch.worldbank.org/PovcalNet/povD…. This is the source that he and I rely on and you can look up the data for any poverty line you want.
As the world population increases, it is not just the case that the number of poor people increases, the number of people who are *not* poor increases as well.
Here it is, with the latest available data.
ourworldindata.org/grapher/distri…
I’m now of course asking myself why I was not speaking about all of this in public much earlier.
I am sorry. I should have not done that, it was a mistake on my side.
Jason Hickel is again making false claims about me, so I’d like to explain myself.
You can read his thread here:
x.com/jasonhickel/st…
*No one* in their right mind would ever claim something as stupid as this.
He knows that I would not claim this.
He is lying.
But it is ridiculous to claim that I would believe that all that is counted towards GDP is “just good stuff”.
This is not the case and it matters that Hickel is wrong
[Look at my recent post on child mortality – ourworldindata.org/child-mortalit… – or any other text that studies the large inequalities in global health today.]
They *do not*.
Just because it doesn’t serve Hickel’s self-interests to acknowledge this fact, he is glossing over this terrible reality and is instead accusing me of misrepresenting the reality.



