@nickwallis: J - do we have a transcript?P...

J - do we have a transcript?
P the defence transcript doesn't have this part of it.
[okay we have sound]
P do you hear SB saying "you came up to me and took a photo of me"
GL he's lying
P he's lying?
GL yes - as soon as people on the panel started mentioning trans people

he started taking photos.
P so it's not possible
GL it might be
[there is a bit of back and forth about whether KH approached SB twice - the pronouns between P and GL are all over the place and GL gets confused as to who we are talking about - P says she will revert to Ms Brooks]

P when Ms Brooks says that "you took a photo of may" - that may have been true
GL sure, but that's not compared to walking around aggressively and threatening to send photos of them to their employers
P did that happen?

P was she saying that?
GL no - but it's how he operates in the group I'm in I know he's contacted employers calling people paedophiles and bigots
P has she ever done that to you?
GL might have - through a sock account

[there's an epic pronoun-off happening in an argument about what SB is or isn't doing - P's argument is that SB was photographed first. GL says he was TOLD SB was photographing photo]

[sample:

P so was "SHE" doing so-and-so-and-so?
GL no, "HE" was doing so-and blah
P but "SHE" was not doing blah]

P there are much more disruptive things SB could have done
GL of course - she didn't get naked or set the place on fire
P but you say it was harassment - taking photos.
GL yes
P what is harassment
GL in this case taking photos with the intention to doxx them or tell..

... their employers.
P so basically H is whatever transactivists do that you don't like
GL no but this is their playbook - harassment and doxxing - where are those photos going? no one's ever seen them - you'd think he worked for Reuters the way he talks about it

P you've never seen them
GL no one has - he's using them as an implied threat.

[P turns to SB convo with MM]
P they were having a discussion about who was assaulted
GL MM was assaulted, the guy was convicted
P SB's assailant was convicted too - do you only believe people...

... on the GC side when they say they've been assaulted.
GL MM is of good character. SB was being assisted by a disgraced ex policeman - so I trust the conviction of MM's assailant more.

[Long discussion about whether SB was at the QEII building at the time of the crickets attack - GL is convinced SB was there when it's I think been accepted by the court SB turned up at 1700 after the attack]

P you called SB disgusting, a groomer, an incel
P SB disgusts you
SB he bullies women - it is disgusting
P incel?
SB shut in people who don't have relationships

P the expression sissy=porn watching
GL that was something I feel a little bit of regret about - because that was a guess. I think he does what he does is because he's a sadist.
P there are all manner of insults you could have used
GL yes
P but you chose siss=porn

GL it's sissy-porn
P you must be more familiar with it than me
GL Oh I am - I really am

[P calls SB female. GL asks her if she thinks SB really is female - asks her how P thinks SB can be female. J intervenes to tell him this is not what we are here to discuss and P is there...

... to ask questions. also admonishes the gallery for making noise]
GL the problem is we're talking in two different realities - she seems to believe that men are actually female - and she's trying to make me out as a bigot
J yes I know and it makes it quite hard to follow

... but we really are not here to discuss this. You're talking over each other. We need to calm it down and you must just answer your questions as best you are able.
P asks about the language GL used re trans people
GL says I don't know how many trans people you know - I have ...

... several trans friends and they hate this movement what these activists have done.

[we are running out of court time - it looks like we'll be sitting late but not too late - however they want to get GL finished so he is allowed to talk to his lawyers after giving evidence...

... and there is an issue in that the next witness Kate Harris is moving country tomorrow, so her availability is limited today (though of course video-links do exist in the outside world that was not raised yet)]
[The plan appears to be everyone have 5 mins to calm down...

... then finish GL and try to get KH done. Then set a date for the remainder of the trial. Which I wouldn't bet won't run into two more days]

[Please note GL speaks v quickly and fluently and I have missed a lot - this style of court reporting really only gives a flavour of what is happening - NOTHING is a direct quote unless in direct quotes]

[P resumes GL's x-e]
P do you agree on 19 Oct you referred to a "17yo sociopath who think's he's a girl"
GL I did, but I don't think he's 17
P you wrote "17yo sociopath on 19 Oct 2024"
GL but at that stage I was going by his word - don't believe that now
P But you did at the...

... time.
GL yeah he's been in this a while tho
P we have a driving licence with a birth date of 2007
GL and a female name - if you can lie about your name and sex you can lie about everything
P when SB approached you outside the BoI do you agree she was asking you to account...

... for what you had said about her online
GL yes
P did she have the right
GL yes and I have the right not to answer
P you called her a domestic terrorist
GL because of the attack at the LGBA
P quite extreme
GL yes
P so they have the right to confront someone

GL sure
P first time you she tried you called her a groomer etc
GL yes
P you didn't explain to her why you called her a DT
GL no I didn't
P by the time we get to the final time do you agree she still had the right to ask you
GL yes - right to do anything short of crim activity

P did she have the right to film your response
GL yeah, but not to constantly follow me around
P you were asked why you grabbed the phone and said to stop him doing it
GL yes
P you didn't feel threatened
GL no
P and she had a right to ask you these q's and film the response

GL yes
P wasn't committing a crime was she
GL no - he's v careful
P no justification for taking the phone
GL there is - I had been harassed all day, and it was a reactive instinct - I thought we'd have an interaction and then I could get on with my night.
P you said you threw...

... the phone like a stone
GL it was more like a frisbee
P in throwing the phone were you aware there was a risk it might be damaged
GL I wanted it out of my face
P were you angry
GL yes
P did you want to damage SB's phone
GL no - that's why I skimmed it

P you've talked about various things Brooks had done in the past - that's your mindset - did you think SB deserved to be harassed?
GL I think my friends in the feminist movement deserve to talk to discuss their rights without people disrupting them and have a right to know...

... that abusive men are in the area.
P when you were posting about her online was it to get back at her
GL no it was purely to warn people about him and know his face
P do agree someone who appears argumentative can still have feelings
GL yes
P feelings of alarm and distress

GL yes but we have seen precisely no evidence of this in all the evidence. We only see the alarm and distress he causes in other people
P you posted to 500k followers and SB was not responding
GL not as far as I am aware. "he prefers to bully women"

P you didn't call the police or make a crime report
GL yes because the police are captured - they believe men are women people can change sex they issue wanted posters of people in the wrong sex, they are errand boys for these men

P so when you tagged in the Met Police you didn't think they'd do anything then
GL no but I wanted to put them under pressure
P the way you tagged the police was not a way to report crime
GL no but when I reported a credible death threat to the police from FW they did nothing

P did you see SB post anything to suggest she was involved in the crickets attack on the LGBA confy
GL no
P do you have any evidence
[GL draws his connection between SJB, FW and SB and the crickets]
P so they were photographed after committing the crime and didn't run away...

... when the police were called.
GL no they were enjoying the moment too much.
P wearing badges to blend in is not a unique MO is it
GL no
P so the teenagers in there could have come up with it by themselves

GL yes
P there's no rational basis at all for thinking Brooks was involved in the insect attack
GL he was there, he knew a lot about the insect attacks by the lesbian group in the past, he infiltrates events - it's circumstantial evidence sure, but it points towards his knowledge

[P is taking GL through his tweets about SB again - the pronoun-off appears to have been unconsciously resolved by both P and GL calling SB "Brooks"]

[It's actually made for a calmer atmosphere]

P you tweet "does anyone know this man?" - with a phot of SB, so you're still asking for information about Ms Brooks
GL yes
[commentator's curse]

P then you post an image of Ms Brooks and Freda Wallace
GL yeah that's Brooks and Wallace
P so when you post Brooks and Wallace - that's another photo of Brooks
GL yeah I wanted to show the connection with FW - I wanted people to remember his face so he wouldn't be able to...

... trick women and harass them.
P where did you find it
GL might have been sent it might have found it myself on FW account
[we are just going through tweets of GL's - I think P's point is the volume of them...? There's a lot of agreeing going on]

P did you think it true SB had harassed gay man
GL yes - we had a 400 page dossier in which his sock accounts went after gay men
P police took no action tho didn't they
GL yes they did - I am pretty sure the size of it was no interest to police we should have reduced the size

P could it be that there was not sufficient evidence of harassment
GL they all came from his sock accounts which he has mostly accepted operating
P there is a tweet which says "so Tarquin is making the rounds again" and you reply "more info on Tarquin pictured"

- you know he is not called Tarquin
GL yes it came from an event where he was harassing KJK at an LWS event and she said "that's enough Tarquin" and the name stuck
P so it was a term of mockery
GL yes

P in a reply you call SJB and SB scumbag homophobic sociopathic sadists - did you mean SB
GL I meant SB - that group of men and all TRAs
P so you think all TRAs are scumbag homophobic sociopatic sadists
GL yes

P did you know SB made reports to the police before
GL says he got someone arrested for someone pushing a camera out of his face... he also got someone arrested and Brooks quickly had their hands on their home address and I think the police gave it to him.

P trying to find out where she was studying - were you trying to intrude on her life
GL I was because he is a criminal - he harasses people and he's a sadist.

P you say "was interesting to meet Tarquin today - absolute psycho" - was that based on your interactions?
GL he was going round putting a speaker under a car he thought was mine - showing people photos of my wife's house

P that day he wasn't being a psycho
GL he was he was following me around all day and harassing me - I think sociopath is more accurate
P you say that on oath?
GL yeah
P that's an abusive term
GL it's accurate - what part of him going around harassing people don't you understand?

[P goes on to suggest abusing SB for being posh is abusive and uneccessary]
GL it might be but he entirely earned it