1/ "Charlie Kirk was a zionist and one of israel's strongest supporters, why would they kill him?"
Please allow me to explain why this isn't necessarily as robust a falsification of the "israel did it" theory as you might think. 🔖This essay thread.
When JFK was assassinated in 1963, no one suspected israel or jewry, nor did they for decades. Why? 3 reasons:
1. At the time, JFK was perceived as being a great ally to jews and a strong supporter of israel & zionism. This cannot be overstated. This would have been the position of regular people and insiders alike.
2. Certain aspects and motives we now ascribe to israel/jewry for being behind the assassination were mostly not known. (Ex: Nukes/Fight with David Ben-Gurion, Palestinian Right of Return, Withdrawal from Vietnam, James Angleton & his army of jewish spies, Yitzhak Rabin was in Dallas that day)
3. Certain aspects and motives that were known but not appreciated by audiences of the time to be as important as we now understand them to have been. (Ex: Jack Ruby, Jolly West, AZC/AIPAC/FARA Registration, Zapruder)
Applying the experience, it's possible the actual motives behind assassinating Charlie Kirk might not actually be known, yet, or they might be known and they don't seem as important to us Gentiles right now as they actually are. I submit that a surface-level understanding, or even a moderately critical view, of Charlie's known support for israel isn't nececssarily a sufficient test to rule out israeli/jewish involvement. That level of knowledge, analysis & understanding is why no one suspected jews/israel of being behind the JFK assassination for so long.
Let's look at that JFK case, now.
2/ JFK was perceived as being a great ally to jews and a strong supporter of israel & zionism.
▪️Appointments of Prominent jews to High-Level Positions: Appointed Arthur Goldberg as Secretary of Labor & later Supreme Court Justice; Abraham Ribicoff as Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare; and Mortimer Caplin as Internal Revenue Commissioner. These were seen as reflecting his admiration for jewish emphasis on education & upward mobility.
▪️Public Speeches on zionism and israel: He spoke glowingly of zionism's modernizing effects and Israel's tenacity in absorbing immigrants; in his August 1960 address to the Zionist Organization of America, described israel as a "sword and shield" of freedom, criticized US inaction on Middle East issues like the arms race & Suez Canal access, called for guarantees against aggression, arms limitations, and a peace conference with Arab & israeli leaders, and reaffirmed that "israel is here to stay."
▪️Major Arms Sales to israel: Kennedy was the 1st president to approve significant arms sales, overriding State Department objections to sell Hawk anti-aircraft missiles in 1962, addressing Israel's security concerns against its Arab enemies.
▪️Economic Aid: JFK provided low-interest loans for israel's economic development.
▪️Denunciations of Antisemitism: JFK publicly condemned Soviet restrictions on jews in his 1963 UN speech; he intervened with Saudi Arabia to lift anti-jewish bans affecting US citizens; he expressed readiness in a November 1963 meeting to organize a conference on Soviet jewry.
▪️Honors from Jewish Organizations: Received awards from the Anti-Defamation League; maintained a White House liaison (Myer Feldman) to monitor jewish and israeli issues.
▪️Courting Jewish Support: Kennedy actively consulted jewish community leaders during his 1946 congressional run & maintained close ties as senator and president; the jewish community strongly backed his 1960 presidential candidacy, viewing him as an advocate for minority rights.
▪️Meetings and Visits: As president, he visited israel-related sites and met with leaders like David Ben-Gurion in 1961, expressing concern for israel's future amid Egyptian threats; publicly highlighted israel's contributions in education and science, positioning it as a US partner.
▪️Supported jewish Policy Endeavors: He supported the jewish agenda to end the National Origins quota system and de-facto ban on non-White immigration. He partnered with the ADL to write the propaganda book "Nation of Immigrants."
▪️Praise for Jewish Educational Efforts: In a 1963 Oval Office recording, Kennedy praised jewish educational achievements as a model for success.
▪️Praise for Israeli Institutions: His administration lauded israeli kibbutzim as models for development.
▪️Overall Policy Stance: Continued bipartisan US support for israel rooted in values of freedom and democracy, seen as more supportive than predecessors, with israel viewed as an American "outpost" in the region amid Cold War dynamics.
Summary:
No general member of the public, or Gentile member of his administration, viewed JFK as anything but a staunch ally and supporter of jews and israel. It didn't enter into anyone's mind that they were behind the assassination.
▪️Appointments of Prominent jews to High-Level Positions: Appointed Arthur Goldberg as Secretary of Labor & later Supreme Court Justice; Abraham Ribicoff as Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare; and Mortimer Caplin as Internal Revenue Commissioner. These were seen as reflecting his admiration for jewish emphasis on education & upward mobility.
▪️Public Speeches on zionism and israel: He spoke glowingly of zionism's modernizing effects and Israel's tenacity in absorbing immigrants; in his August 1960 address to the Zionist Organization of America, described israel as a "sword and shield" of freedom, criticized US inaction on Middle East issues like the arms race & Suez Canal access, called for guarantees against aggression, arms limitations, and a peace conference with Arab & israeli leaders, and reaffirmed that "israel is here to stay."
▪️Major Arms Sales to israel: Kennedy was the 1st president to approve significant arms sales, overriding State Department objections to sell Hawk anti-aircraft missiles in 1962, addressing Israel's security concerns against its Arab enemies.
▪️Economic Aid: JFK provided low-interest loans for israel's economic development.
▪️Denunciations of Antisemitism: JFK publicly condemned Soviet restrictions on jews in his 1963 UN speech; he intervened with Saudi Arabia to lift anti-jewish bans affecting US citizens; he expressed readiness in a November 1963 meeting to organize a conference on Soviet jewry.
▪️Honors from Jewish Organizations: Received awards from the Anti-Defamation League; maintained a White House liaison (Myer Feldman) to monitor jewish and israeli issues.
▪️Courting Jewish Support: Kennedy actively consulted jewish community leaders during his 1946 congressional run & maintained close ties as senator and president; the jewish community strongly backed his 1960 presidential candidacy, viewing him as an advocate for minority rights.
▪️Meetings and Visits: As president, he visited israel-related sites and met with leaders like David Ben-Gurion in 1961, expressing concern for israel's future amid Egyptian threats; publicly highlighted israel's contributions in education and science, positioning it as a US partner.
▪️Supported jewish Policy Endeavors: He supported the jewish agenda to end the National Origins quota system and de-facto ban on non-White immigration. He partnered with the ADL to write the propaganda book "Nation of Immigrants."
▪️Praise for Jewish Educational Efforts: In a 1963 Oval Office recording, Kennedy praised jewish educational achievements as a model for success.
▪️Praise for Israeli Institutions: His administration lauded israeli kibbutzim as models for development.
▪️Overall Policy Stance: Continued bipartisan US support for israel rooted in values of freedom and democracy, seen as more supportive than predecessors, with israel viewed as an American "outpost" in the region amid Cold War dynamics.
Summary:
No general member of the public, or Gentile member of his administration, viewed JFK as anything but a staunch ally and supporter of jews and israel. It didn't enter into anyone's mind that they were behind the assassination.
3/ Certain aspects and motives we now ascribe as supporting evidence for israel/jewry being behind the assassination were mostly not known.
▪️Israel's Nuclear Program: The public knew a little about israel's nuclear program as the Dimona reactor had been discovered and reported in the press in 1960. But israel's leaders emphasized its peaceful purposes. The public knew nothing beyond this. It knew nothing of the battle JFK was waging with Ben-Gurion through letters, phone calls and weapons inspections in order to prevent israel from getting The Bomb. In fact, the public didn't really get full access and understanding to this fight until the 2010s! The public didn't know israel had been stealing nuclear secrets and material for several decades. It didn't even know israel had nuclear weapons until the late 1980s/early 1990s.
▪️Support for UN Resolution 194, Palestinian Right of Return: JFK supported Right of Return and had made promises and assurances to Arab leaders. But he kept his support and his administration's actions very close to the vest. The public knew virtually nothing about it, but certain insiders knew, including the zionists.
▪️James Angleton & his army of jewish spies: James Angleton was the head of Counterintelligence at the CIA, and only person in the US Intelligence community authorized to officially interface with the israelis. During the entire decade of the 1960s, he operated almost completely unsupervised and outside any chain of command. A true lone wolf. He ran a team of jewish spies who kept tabs on Lee Harvey Oswald. He traded US nuclear secrets to israel in exchange for intelligence on the Soviet Union. Even administration officials knew little of his operations, including his superiors at the CIA.
▪️His Plan To Withdraw From Vietnam: JFK planned to completely withdraw America from Vietnam. LBJ reversed that and escalated our involvement. The Vietnam War was an extremely important endeavor for world jewry and israel. Its architect and major champion were two jewish brothers named Walt & Eugene Rostow who were also major zionists. The Vietnam War was critical in moving the Cold War out of the Middle East, leaving israel room to operate and expand against its Arab neighbors who were allied with the Soviet Union. In addition, the build-up to the American Military Industrial Complex as a result of the war is what enabled America to be able to arm israel to the extent it needed to dominate its Arab enemies. Without the Vietnam-era MIC build-up, Nixon's Operation Nickelgrass to resupply and save israel during the Yom Kippur War of 1973 wouldn't have been possible.
▪️Yitzhak Rabin was in Dallas the day of the assassination: Nobody knew about this one until his wife Leah mentioned it in her 1997 biography of him. More recently @wallyrashid obtained documents by FOIA request verifying this and discovering that it had been part of a visit to the US that Rabin abruptly cut short right after the assassination, going back to israel several days ahead of schedule. This has yet to be fully understood or explained. Shortly thereafter, he was promoted head of the IDF, and ended up leading israel's unprovoked attack on Egypt and Syria in the 1967 6-Day War, supported by American intelligence and offensive weapons capabilities granted them by LBJ after the assassination.
▪️Israel's Nuclear Program: The public knew a little about israel's nuclear program as the Dimona reactor had been discovered and reported in the press in 1960. But israel's leaders emphasized its peaceful purposes. The public knew nothing beyond this. It knew nothing of the battle JFK was waging with Ben-Gurion through letters, phone calls and weapons inspections in order to prevent israel from getting The Bomb. In fact, the public didn't really get full access and understanding to this fight until the 2010s! The public didn't know israel had been stealing nuclear secrets and material for several decades. It didn't even know israel had nuclear weapons until the late 1980s/early 1990s.
▪️Support for UN Resolution 194, Palestinian Right of Return: JFK supported Right of Return and had made promises and assurances to Arab leaders. But he kept his support and his administration's actions very close to the vest. The public knew virtually nothing about it, but certain insiders knew, including the zionists.
▪️James Angleton & his army of jewish spies: James Angleton was the head of Counterintelligence at the CIA, and only person in the US Intelligence community authorized to officially interface with the israelis. During the entire decade of the 1960s, he operated almost completely unsupervised and outside any chain of command. A true lone wolf. He ran a team of jewish spies who kept tabs on Lee Harvey Oswald. He traded US nuclear secrets to israel in exchange for intelligence on the Soviet Union. Even administration officials knew little of his operations, including his superiors at the CIA.
▪️His Plan To Withdraw From Vietnam: JFK planned to completely withdraw America from Vietnam. LBJ reversed that and escalated our involvement. The Vietnam War was an extremely important endeavor for world jewry and israel. Its architect and major champion were two jewish brothers named Walt & Eugene Rostow who were also major zionists. The Vietnam War was critical in moving the Cold War out of the Middle East, leaving israel room to operate and expand against its Arab neighbors who were allied with the Soviet Union. In addition, the build-up to the American Military Industrial Complex as a result of the war is what enabled America to be able to arm israel to the extent it needed to dominate its Arab enemies. Without the Vietnam-era MIC build-up, Nixon's Operation Nickelgrass to resupply and save israel during the Yom Kippur War of 1973 wouldn't have been possible.
▪️Yitzhak Rabin was in Dallas the day of the assassination: Nobody knew about this one until his wife Leah mentioned it in her 1997 biography of him. More recently @wallyrashid obtained documents by FOIA request verifying this and discovering that it had been part of a visit to the US that Rabin abruptly cut short right after the assassination, going back to israel several days ahead of schedule. This has yet to be fully understood or explained. Shortly thereafter, he was promoted head of the IDF, and ended up leading israel's unprovoked attack on Egypt and Syria in the 1967 6-Day War, supported by American intelligence and offensive weapons capabilities granted them by LBJ after the assassination.
4/ Certain aspects and motives that were known but not appreciated by audiences of the time to be as important as we now understand them to have been.
▪️Jack Ruby and Jolly West: Jacob Leon Rubinstein, aka "Jack Ruby", the jewish mobster & weapons trafficker who shot Lee Harvey Oswald, wasn't generally understood or known to be jewish. And, to those who realized it, it wasn't seen as significant or important as the fact that he was a mobster. When people thought of Ruby, they thought of "mob," not "jewry and israel."
▪️Jolly West: The jewish MK-Ultra psychiatrist & researcher who spent hours alone with Jack Ruby. Afterward, Ruby reported bizarre mental experiences, including hallucinations of people turning into animals, rendering any testimony or secret revelations from his untrustworthy and worthless. At that time, no one knew about MK-Ultra or the leading jewish role in it under jewish Dr. Sidney Gottlieb.
▪️AZC/AIPAC/FARA Registration: The fight RFK was waging as Attorney General to get the American Zionist Council (AZC) to have to register as a foreign lobby under the Foreign Agent Registration Act had been reported on, but mostly only in the jewish press to its jewish audience. It was seen as a niche issue. The American public didn't understand at the time how important the israeli lobby, thereafter rebranded as AIPAC, had been and ultimately would become.
▪️Zapruder Film: The public didn't first see the film until 1975, although it had seen some stills in Life Magazine. But because the rest of the jewish/israel connections were unknown or poorly understood, nobody actually saw the significance of Abraham Zapruder to the assassination narrative. In fact, it wasn't until after the public found out about the Dancing Israelis filming the 9/11 attacks that his role came more sharply into focus. Their purpose had been to "document the event." What was Zapruder's?
▪️Jack Ruby and Jolly West: Jacob Leon Rubinstein, aka "Jack Ruby", the jewish mobster & weapons trafficker who shot Lee Harvey Oswald, wasn't generally understood or known to be jewish. And, to those who realized it, it wasn't seen as significant or important as the fact that he was a mobster. When people thought of Ruby, they thought of "mob," not "jewry and israel."
▪️Jolly West: The jewish MK-Ultra psychiatrist & researcher who spent hours alone with Jack Ruby. Afterward, Ruby reported bizarre mental experiences, including hallucinations of people turning into animals, rendering any testimony or secret revelations from his untrustworthy and worthless. At that time, no one knew about MK-Ultra or the leading jewish role in it under jewish Dr. Sidney Gottlieb.
▪️AZC/AIPAC/FARA Registration: The fight RFK was waging as Attorney General to get the American Zionist Council (AZC) to have to register as a foreign lobby under the Foreign Agent Registration Act had been reported on, but mostly only in the jewish press to its jewish audience. It was seen as a niche issue. The American public didn't understand at the time how important the israeli lobby, thereafter rebranded as AIPAC, had been and ultimately would become.
▪️Zapruder Film: The public didn't first see the film until 1975, although it had seen some stills in Life Magazine. But because the rest of the jewish/israel connections were unknown or poorly understood, nobody actually saw the significance of Abraham Zapruder to the assassination narrative. In fact, it wasn't until after the public found out about the Dancing Israelis filming the 9/11 attacks that his role came more sharply into focus. Their purpose had been to "document the event." What was Zapruder's?
5/ One of the biggest reasons people suspect an israeli/jewish role in the assassination of Charlie Kirk is due to its similarities to the JFK assassination and because of all the understanding we've gained into israeli terrorism, assassinations, false flags and schemes since the JFK assassination. But in that process, we also forgot that one of the lessons of the JFK assassination is that many things about it were unknown or poorly understood by the public at the time it happened.
We could say the same thing about 9/11. It's easier and more believable to see the israeli connection now, after 24 years of research. But on the day it happened, nobody knew about the Dancing Israelis, and no one knew of the coming multi-decade War on Terror that we're still embroiled in. Nobody knew about the "7 Countries in 5 Years." Hardly anyone knew about PNAC. Nobody knew about the fabricated evidence israel was to feed us. Etc.
We will probably need time for the situation to develop and events to emerge before we can more definitively say one way or another whether there was jewish/israeli involvement in the Charlie Kirk assassination. I understand peoples' reticence to claim a role now, but it is WAY TOO EARLY TO DISMISS! We should keep an open mind and continute investigating.
We could say the same thing about 9/11. It's easier and more believable to see the israeli connection now, after 24 years of research. But on the day it happened, nobody knew about the Dancing Israelis, and no one knew of the coming multi-decade War on Terror that we're still embroiled in. Nobody knew about the "7 Countries in 5 Years." Hardly anyone knew about PNAC. Nobody knew about the fabricated evidence israel was to feed us. Etc.
We will probably need time for the situation to develop and events to emerge before we can more definitively say one way or another whether there was jewish/israeli involvement in the Charlie Kirk assassination. I understand peoples' reticence to claim a role now, but it is WAY TOO EARLY TO DISMISS! We should keep an open mind and continute investigating.
6/ Am I saying Charlie was secretly based or that he wasn't super pro-israel? No. I'm saying that the motive for his assassination might not yet be known, or that the motive is known but we've discounted it because we don't yet realize how important it really is to those who killed him.
I'm also not saying Tyler Robinson didn't shoot him. For me, all possibilities are still on the table.
I simply see no reason to dismiss an israel angle less than 2 weeks into the investigation. It's unnecessary and actually kind of ridiculous. I think a healthy skepticism is certainly fine. And maybe even a bias towards non-involvement. But outright rejection at this early stage lacks perspective. Especially when so much experience makes us all a little suspicious.
I'm also not saying Tyler Robinson didn't shoot him. For me, all possibilities are still on the table.
I simply see no reason to dismiss an israel angle less than 2 weeks into the investigation. It's unnecessary and actually kind of ridiculous. I think a healthy skepticism is certainly fine. And maybe even a bias towards non-involvement. But outright rejection at this early stage lacks perspective. Especially when so much experience makes us all a little suspicious.
7/ Parting Shot: Tyler Robinson the "Leftist"
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