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Tucker and I had a very twisty and frankly confusing discussion about the meaning of Zionism. Now, I have no idea if Tucker was trying to be difficult or we were just talking past each other, but he started out the discussion on Zionism by saying he wanted to ask me in my capacity as a former Baptist minister about the "theology" of Christian Zionism. But, he kept dragging it to discussions about other topics, literally other countries, things that have nothing to do with theology and certainly not with Israel, Zionism, or anything else. So let me just make it really clear. Since Tucker actually seemed more interested in the definition of political Zionism, it's simple: Zionism is the belief that Israel has a right to exist in safety and security. That's it. Pretty simple and straightforward. Lots of Christians who don't have a theological basis for supporting Israel are actually Zionists because they support Israel's right to exist in safety and security. The last two Popes, for example, both came here to Israel, Pope Benedict in May 2009 and Pope Francis in May 2014, and both of them said the exact same words: "Let it be universally recognized that the State of Israel has the right to exist, and to enjoy peace and security within internationally agreed borders." Pope John Paul II, arguably one of the most influential of anyone in the Christian faith and a remarkable man was also a "Christian Zionist." Tucker, I couldn't get you to say you support Israel's right to exist during our interview. But as I told you then and I'll say it again, someone doesn't need to believe it's commanded by the Bible in order to be a Zionist. But if one DOES believe the Bible (and I do) then it's even more compelling. All you need to do is believe that Israel has a right to exist. Why can't you just say that? I asked you multiple times during our interview and not once did you give me a direct answer. You refused to say whether or not Israel has a right to exist. I hope you will state your answer to that simple question soon.