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DeepSeek founder Liang Wenfeng: >> Studies machine vision at Zhejiang University >> At 30 in 2015, launches High-Flyer quant hedge fund >> Makes a fortune (now $8B AUM) >> Wants to build “human” level AI as side hustle and pitches partners but they initially sceptical >> Buys 10,000 H800 chips in 2021 and brings over his top hedge fund employees (all have tons of experience squeezing juice out of Nvidia GPUs for the fund) >> Launched DeepSeek in 2023 and hires dozens of PhDs from top Chinese universities (Peking, Tsinghua and Beihang) >> Pays top top top salary for tech talent only matched by Bytedance in China…wants DeepSeek to be leading “local” company >> US export restrictions force DeepSeek team to get creative and they do, finding new training methods to make LLM models (V3, r1) competitive with OpenAI, Anthropic, Gemini, Grok, LLama etc at ~1/20th the cost >> Training costs not exactly apples-to-apples but novel methods and clear improvements in efficiency (also questions around copying other models, larger H-100 clusters they maybe can’t talk about and/or CCP support) >> Open sources and publishes methods (r1 reasoning paper has 200+ authors) >> DeepSeek just hit top of App Store *** FT: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.ft.com/content/747a7b11-dcba-4aa5-8d25-403f56216d7e" color="blue">ft.com/content/747a7b…</a>
FYI, check out this podcast for a much more thorough deep dive: <a target="_blank" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/chinatalk/id1289062927?i=1000685366992" color="blue">podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/chi…</a> <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/jordanschnyc/status/1883156112075346012" color="blue">x.com/jordanschnyc/s…</a>
Seen comparisons of Liang with Jim Simons (but it’s actually kind of reverse) Simons deep in intellectual pursuits (Math Prizes, Stony Brook Head) until 40, when he hired bunch of PhDs to start RenTech. Liang HF first (then hires PhDs for AI side hustle). <a target="_blank" href="https://www.readtrung.com/p/jim-simons-and-the-making-of-renaissance" color="blue">readtrung.com/p/jim-simons-a…</a>
<a target="_blank" href="https://x.com/trungtphan/status/1883220167347552383" color="blue">x.com/trungtphan/sta…</a> <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/TrungTPhan/status/1883220167347552383" color="blue">x.com/TrungTPhan/sta…</a>
if this @LiangWenfeng_ is legit account, incredible scenes <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/bearlyai/status/1884019385146523717" color="blue">x.com/bearlyai/statu…</a>