@RealDawnie: Yes but this is also a biased ...

Yes but this is also a biased perspective from a character who’s reflecting on their actions. This IS what Sunday THOUGHT he was doing but what REALLY MATTERS is how Robin FELT about his actions. This is why he ISNT a misogynist but WAS influenced by patriarchal values. A 🧵sorry

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Femininity is important to Robin’s character and is what drives her “perfect idol image” and “innocence” this is a reflection of how it is in real life with idols so I think gender is super important to her character since it’s a uniquely femme celebrity experience

Same thing with the “caged bird” motif being typically associated with women. It’s why the audience is expected to assume Robin is the caged bird and not Sunday. Gender plays a part in this subversion and makes it much more interesting imo

But anyway, one look at Robin’s lines about Sunday clearly show the actual effect of his actions have not only made her feel like she thinks he’s a child but has also caused her to question her own maturity compared to him.

This is textbook infantilization and is again, NOT INTENTIONAL on Sunday’s part. He does genuinely believe he’s helping Robin and protecting her. But while she’s expected to be an innocent child she’s still being marketed and perceived as a grown woman without issue from Sunday.

Obv Sunday doesn’t have sole control over how the media and public view her but it’s really telling in the ways he “allows” her to be an adult in his mind (in his MIND he’s not literally giving her permission im talking about what parts of her he accepts vs ignores)

He’s perfectly fine with her being an idol who models fashion, performs for crowds, markets with her body and her looks. And he’s even fine with her having fans that are in love with her. He has concerns for her safety ofc but he’s also a fan of her idol persona too.

All of these things require him to acknowledge that Robin is very much an adult in some capacity. If it truly were just plainly that he saw her as a child he wouldn’t be so proud of her for doing these adult things. He would be saying Robin is too young to do ads or model ect.

So why is his mindset at peace with Robin being a pretty image on a billboard for people to look up to but the minute she wants to try and help him with serious issues or running the family she’s suddenly “too innocent?” this stuff (to me) makes it clear that what he deems Robin—

To be “too innocent” for are the things that are typically considered “man’s work.” And he literally does this so Robin can focus on being the idol persona that objectifies her as an adult woman. He doesn’t do it cuz he wants Robin being objectified but he deems that position—

More fitting for her despite her having many problems with that life even if she loves the good she gets to do because of it. Even if she herself is telling him that she wants to do more. He believes he knows what is best for her (which is a big brother thing) but the position—

He’s put her in within his mind is one only an adult woman could be. He acknowledges her achievements and doesn’t think she is inferior in any way but he does believe that things that are more involved are “too much” for her and Robin tells us how that makes her feel.

It makes her feel like a child when in other areas she’s fully viewed as an adult and that’s frustrating to her. And while that doesn’t make Sunday a bad person it does very explicitly have ties to a woman’s traditional role and her voice not being heard “for her own good”

I think it’s impossible to separate their genders from this discussion even if that’s not ALL the nuance to their relationship. And we can blame the fact Sunday was groomed into a lot of this thinking as a young boy. This wasn’t just the writers making Sunday “evil”

It was to show the audience his skewed thinking due to the way he was being influenced by others, isolating him from the one person who really cared about him by making him believe she wasn’t mature enough to understand. (All through the guise of protecting his sister)

His love for her was weaponized. Sunday is a victim in this too and his reflections on the AE are him processing his trauma and how his behavior influenced his relationship with his sister in ways he didn’t intend for. And how he was blinded by this mindset to the point where—

His image of Robin was skewed from who she actually was because he desperately wanted to believe he was protecting her by keeping her “innocent” when in reality he was digging himself a deeper hole. He realizes this himself. He admits he is not worried abt her for the first time

Robin knows this too! She even tells him so (technically) she doesn’t hate her brother or think he’s a bad person but she acknowledges that she’s stronger than he thinks and he has some learning to do

It’s even reflected in his lines about her as well. He admits that he wanted to protect her from the “dark side of adulthood” but only actually did so in very specific ways that (unintentionally) involved stripping her of agency and dismissing her intelligence and strength.

SUNDAY IS SAYING THIS HIMSELF AND THAT HE NOW KNOWS HE WAS WRONG!!! He has healed and grown from this and Robin said herself that she believes in him and that they will unite again. This is a good example of someone taking accountability and realizing giving Robin—

Space to be her own person is what she needs after all of the events of the charmony festival. (Along with other reasons obv) He’s lost the privilege to be as close with her for now because he has to change and he’s at peace with that and she doesn’t hate him.

this all reflects very positively on Sunday’s character so idk why ppl are so mad. Men often don’t take accountability for their contributions for the patriarchy but Sunday’s going above and beyond cuz it was always abt loving his sister he just made some mistakes, that’s all.

Sorry for the long thread I REALLY love these topics. Also I started playing the game for Robin I love her so so much she was my fav girlie before Hyacine showed up. Thank u for reading! If you didn’t read, don’t comment just block me thanks! Not hating on Sunday I want him bad.