@IbnHusayn02: of Hisham Ibn Hakam the kafir ...
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Aug 26, 2025
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of Hisham Ibn Hakam the kafir yet, you shut your mouth and listen when we tell you about the Prophet ﷺ. We tell you about him and you listen like good obedient slaves.
Not only the Sirah, but have to rely on us for reports on the Ahlul bayt.
Not only the Sirah, but have to rely on us for reports on the Ahlul bayt.
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His third point: The Prophet ﷺ prayed while being in a state of major impurity.
I don’t know if this is deliberate deception or simply his inability to comprehend and read? I think it is the latter, because this individual clearly is on the lower end of the IQ scale.
I don’t know if this is deliberate deception or simply his inability to comprehend and read? I think it is the latter, because this individual clearly is on the lower end of the IQ scale.
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This fool thought this report mentioned the Prophet ﷺ praying, but it is rather mentioning he would wash himself and do ablution, like one would do for the prayer. It does not say he prayed in this state.
Imagine taking someone with this level of comprehension seriously?
Imagine taking someone with this level of comprehension seriously?
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His fourth point is that the Prophet ﷺ contemplated suicide. This report (or rather the specific part in question) is absolute rejected, and it is false.
The report with the given addition, is from the marāsīl of Al-Zuhrī and these are neglected.
The report with the given addition, is from the marāsīl of Al-Zuhrī and these are neglected.
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The report in question beside the addition is fine, and it can in fact be found in Sahihayn without the addition. By the inclusion of “as it has reached us”, al-Zuhrī was making clear this was not a direct report but something he had heard generally.
Henceforth the addition-
Henceforth the addition-
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In conclusion, this additional is rejected by the scholars and it is from the inclusions of Al-Zuhri. It is hence rejected. Other reports are present without the addition.
For more, look at the article below: islamqa.info/ar/answers/152…
For more, look at the article below: islamqa.info/ar/answers/152…
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His fifth point is that the Prophet ﷺ was naked…. These Shia are very shameless when they even think of such disgusting things about our noble Prophet ﷺ. They are maybe used to see their fathers naked on the streets slapping themselves on Ashura.
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The report cited mention nothing of that sort, and it is only his dirty imagination going to such extents.
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His sixth point is that the Prophet ﷺ was forgetful of verse in the Quran. In accordance with our perception and concept of infallibility, then such forgetfulness is not problematic. On that the Prophet ﷺ can commit unintentional sins, there is an agreement thus far between-
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Shaykh Ibn Taymiyya and Asharis like Al-Rāzī on this point.
Al-Rāzī mentions the ‘iṣma of the prophets and takes the position that it is not possible for the prophets to commit minor or major sins intentionally, but they are allowed to commit mistakes unintentionally (sahū).
Al-Rāzī mentions the ‘iṣma of the prophets and takes the position that it is not possible for the prophets to commit minor or major sins intentionally, but they are allowed to commit mistakes unintentionally (sahū).
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The Ash‘arī Taqī al-Dīn al-Subkī takes al-Rāzī’s definition a step further and argues that prophets did not commit minor or major sins intentionally or unintentionally.
Shaykh Ibn Taymiyya felt that the Ash‘arīs imposed their view of the prophets on the Qur’ānic text and in the-
Shaykh Ibn Taymiyya felt that the Ash‘arīs imposed their view of the prophets on the Qur’ānic text and in the-
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the process rejected who the prophets really were. By foisting their rationality on the text, the Ash‘arīs were in effect denying part of revelation.
Shaykh Ibn Taymiyya defines the concept as ‘iṣma as that “prophets were protected (ma‘ṣūm) from remaining, continuing or-
Shaykh Ibn Taymiyya defines the concept as ‘iṣma as that “prophets were protected (ma‘ṣūm) from remaining, continuing or-
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persisting in sin and error once they had committed it.”
Ibn Taymiyya believed that prophets could sin, but what made them different than others was that they were protected from persisting in sin. God would not allow his messengers, whom he trusted to convey his message, to-
Ibn Taymiyya believed that prophets could sin, but what made them different than others was that they were protected from persisting in sin. God would not allow his messengers, whom he trusted to convey his message, to-
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continue to commit sins but would eventually correct their mistakes.
Ibn Taymiyya asserted that his definition of ‘iṣma was more consistent with Qur’ānic verses and ḥadīths in which the prophets admit their transgression (ẓulm) and ask for forgiveness
Ibn Taymiyya asserted that his definition of ‘iṣma was more consistent with Qur’ānic verses and ḥadīths in which the prophets admit their transgression (ẓulm) and ask for forgiveness
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Shaykh Ibn Taymiyya view is the most balanced and consistent with the Quran and Sunnah. He refuted both al-Subkī and al-Rāzī comprehensively.
In light of this and me being an Athari, the report is not problematic in any shape, way or form. The Prophet ﷺ could be forgetful.
In light of this and me being an Athari, the report is not problematic in any shape, way or form. The Prophet ﷺ could be forgetful.
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Moreover, I can get into the technicalities and the commentary of the qualified scholars on this report and infalibility, but I want to adopt a different strategy for this point. I am going to prove that by making this point or argument, he is CURSED by his own imam.
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In another authentic report, which can be found in sources like Bihar al-Anwar, Wasail Al-Shia and elsewhere – it is mentioned that forgetfulness was mentioned to Al-Sadiq, and he replied:
“Does anyone escape from that? Perhaps I make the servant sit behind me to watch my-
“Does anyone escape from that? Perhaps I make the servant sit behind me to watch my-
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Will he respond to being cursed by his own Imam?
In his seventh point he says the bewitched Prophet ﷺ. Do you remember when I said these beggers don’t have any independent sirah and that they are our slaves? They rely on us for the sirah, the reports on Ahlul bayt, the Quran,-
In his seventh point he says the bewitched Prophet ﷺ. Do you remember when I said these beggers don’t have any independent sirah and that they are our slaves? They rely on us for the sirah, the reports on Ahlul bayt, the Quran,-
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the science of Hadith, that Islam has literally reached their countries.
However, I have already made a thread on the bewitchment in two parts. One part where I explain it from our tradition and a second part where I prove it from their scholars and books.
However, I have already made a thread on the bewitchment in two parts. One part where I explain it from our tradition and a second part where I prove it from their scholars and books.
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His eight point is that the Prophet ﷺ used to fondle his wives during their period? And what is the issue?
It is absolutely permissible to fondle, hug, kiss etc your spouse in her period. The Prophet ﷺ is literally our evidence for the permissibility of such.
It is absolutely permissible to fondle, hug, kiss etc your spouse in her period. The Prophet ﷺ is literally our evidence for the permissibility of such.
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The rest of the points are not worth responding. Even these low tier argument were unworthy, but we can at least now hope he comes out of occultation and defends his imams.
Ahl Al-Sunnah will always by the will of Allah have the upper hand over these kuffar.
Ahl Al-Sunnah will always by the will of Allah have the upper hand over these kuffar.


















