@cremieuxrecueil: Researchers put together an in...
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Apr 07, 2025
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The participants certainly seemed to think so.
The cash rewards did get more people into screenings and advising, and they even got some people moving more.
If estimates from earlier studies were to be believed, this effort should even do enough to save employers money!
The cash rewards did get more people into screenings and advising, and they even got some people moving more.
If estimates from earlier studies were to be believed, this effort should even do enough to save employers money!
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Before getting to other outcomes, we have to ask: Why trust this over other results? A few reasons:
For one, it was bigger than other studies in the experimental literature.
For two, it was preregistered, publicly archived, and independently analyzed by outside researchers.
For one, it was bigger than other studies in the experimental literature.
For two, it was preregistered, publicly archived, and independently analyzed by outside researchers.
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Who do you trust more?
"We aren't financially conflicted and we'll publish regardless of what happens and of course we provide data and code."
or "p = 0.04, this program is life-changing (ignore my financial conflicts of interest :))"
I know my answer, you know my answer.
"We aren't financially conflicted and we'll publish regardless of what happens and of course we provide data and code."
or "p = 0.04, this program is life-changing (ignore my financial conflicts of interest :))"
I know my answer, you know my answer.
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Now let's talk other outcomes.
Medical spending: not affected in total, admin-wise, drug-wise, office-wise, hospital-wise, or in terms of any utilization metric.
Employment and productivity: Didn't affect employee retention, salaries, promotions, sick leave, overtime, etc.
Medical spending: not affected in total, admin-wise, drug-wise, office-wise, hospital-wise, or in terms of any utilization metric.
Employment and productivity: Didn't affect employee retention, salaries, promotions, sick leave, overtime, etc.
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More employment and productivity: Didn't affect job satisfaction or feelings of productivity. BUT, did affect views about management priorities on health (increased) and the likelihood of engaging in a job search (increased).
That's backfiring, potentially.
That's backfiring, potentially.
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Participants failed to increase their number of gym visits, didn't participate in the IL marathon, 10k, or 5k more often, despite smoking cessation advice and help they didn't smoke less, they didn't report better health, hell, they became (marginally-significantly) fatter!
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These programs' effectiveness is a classic example of selection leading to results that simply cannot be trusted.
But... how?! Why?! After all, this program had all the ingredients that so many prominent people think will solve America's public health issues.
But... how?! Why?! After all, this program had all the ingredients that so many prominent people think will solve America's public health issues.
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The answer is that they misunderstand people.
Most people are lazy, commitment is hard
My recommendation to ppl who haven't learned that is to do a clinical rotation or read abt the thousands of programs across America that have done food delivery coaching, etc., with no effect
Most people are lazy, commitment is hard
My recommendation to ppl who haven't learned that is to do a clinical rotation or read abt the thousands of programs across America that have done food delivery coaching, etc., with no effect
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For this reason, GLP-1RAs are going to decisively beat all efforts to advise people, to provide them with healthy food and instructions on how to prepare it, and all of that tried-and-true advice that's been around and in vogue for decades, but clearly hasn't worked.












