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anarchist: "if we need glasses, we'll make glasses. we will figure out a way to do it voluntarily and without coercion."

tankie: "no, I want slave labor so i can buy glasses and enslave glasses-makers. you anarkiddie. you anarkkkist. you—"

People always love asking about the production and distribution system for every single good or service in anarchism, instead of ever, once, just reading the numerous anarchist texts proposing working models of production and distribution.

Sure, you can first try asking an anarchist who actually knows something about glasses. I don't. Or you can read. You can read the Economy chapter of Anarchy Works and see how that would apply to the production of glasses.

theanarchistlibrary.org/library/peter-…

You will probably find that it’s more complicated than the above meme (someone who likely does not know much about glasses either). That it involves people recognizing their mutual interest in sourcing raw materials, making tools, passing on lens-making skills, etc.

The good news is: societies that are not driven by profit (but by mutual interest in the well-being of all people in the society) are just as capable of doing complicated things, or more capable.

theanarchistlibrary.org/library/the-an…

Nobody has ever thought about that or written about it since anarchism's inception, and neither have there been past examples of anarchist projects where people actually did that shit. Congratulations, you just dismantled our entire political ideology.

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And even then. If there are such miserable "jobs" that nobody wants to do and nobody considers important enough to endure, then in a liberated world without coercion they would simply disappear, yes.

Authoritarians make fun of this because they inherently don't want a free world, they need to coerce people to do jobs. But the simple matter of fact is that if there are jobs that aren't important enough to endure, then we wouldn't do it.

Contrary to some state forcing us to do it or we'll starve on the streets. And if it's really important that, for example, sewers are cleaned (because we want to be able to poop in toilets and be able to flush), I think that will be important enough for people to do.

Then you can organize so that everyone cleans their part evenly, so instead of in a coercive world where a small group of plumbers do it so they don't starve and go homeless, each person has to clean one maybe once per month, and the entire system is kept clean.

As has been practiced and experimented with during anarchist projects.

Stuff like this is also why if we did have the same end goal, then 99% of anti-anarchist arguments are also anti-communist arguments.

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This is why we say that anarchists and communists don't have the same end goal even if communists might say we do.

"Are you two friends?"

Communist: "Yes"
Anarchist: "No."

If communists make fun of anarchists for saying that people won't do particular jobs they hate and don't find the gain from it important enough to endure, it's because communists don't actually want a coervice-free world. They don't want a stateless world.

If they did, maybe they wouldn't ridicule us describing such a world cause then we should agree on the end goal but not the method there, right? But they don't.

It's okay to find the above meme silly (it is!), but you think you'd at least see communists give more realistic models of how it'd work in a stateless society then, but they don't.

They make fun of the very act of imagining being able to produce and distribute glasses without coercion because they don't have our end goal of a coercive free world.

There's lots of nonsense all around.

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Anarchists do explain this. All the time. It's a majority of anarchist writings. Every single major anarchist text has several sections about how an anarchist world would work (principles rather than prescription, as it'll have to adapt slightly differently to wherever you are).

Nothing about our standards of living is sustainable in any way, but you don't care. You don't want to grow ideologically, but simply find justifications to keep the oppression and exploitation necessary for your way of life.

Authoritarians are anti-liberation and have never dreamt of a better world.